how far have mac's made it into large installations?

Sun Apr 24 15:02:02 PDT 2011

> I know I am the exception to the rule, but I gotta say, getting along
> with Ubuntu hasn't been any more difficult--generally easier
> than--other OSes, including Mac.  I suspect that if others are having
> this experience, Linux desktop market share may be set to start gaining.
I do agree that Linux desktops are getting much closer, and that I would
probably be able to find one that would just work more or less for me
easily enough if I bothered to try.  Mostly I just want it to to work
out of the box and not have to learn yet another UI/WM, etc.

And, speaking from the non-developer, IT like support role, I need
something that works with the rest of the executive chosen applications
and corp IT imposed tools/rules/etc.  Linux is getting there too,
crossover, etc, but it's still just that extra bit to get it working.

And I spend just as much time trying to find apps for Linux as I do for
OSX.   Not every distro has every app in it's port/apt/portage tree/system.

And, as I said, it's been a while since I have tried a linux desktop. 
Right now, OSX works for me and it's marginally better than Windows7. 
(hell of a lot stabler and I don't have near as much corporate security
resource sucking mandatory apps as I would on windows).  I just need
something that's stable and consistent.  Apple provides that better than
any Windows Vendor, and I'm satisfied with that I guess.

satch
P.S.  I'd probably look at FreeBSD as a desktop next...  I came from the
NetBSD camp, via BSD386, via SunOS4.  Never really liked SysV or
(shudder) AIX.

On 4/24/11 1:57 PM, Daniel Howard wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Steve Acheson <satch at cisco.com
> <mailto:satch at cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     Linux just takes too much time to administer over the long run
>     (for the
>     desktop UI only) for me.  I still fondly remember tweaking out my fvwm
>     and fvwm2 setups for hours into the night to get it just right...  But
>     these days, I just don't have the time or patience to do that for my
>     main desktop.
>
>
> A decade ago I would agree with this sort of conclusion, but nowadays
> I just use Gnome or whatever is the default GUI, and now I find a
> Linux workstation takes less effort:
>
> - Need to install new software?  Do it right there in the GUI or with
> one-two commands in the terminal.  No need to surf to some unfamiliar
> web site and figure out their installer.
>
> - Installation of third-party stuff not in the central repository
> often comes with the configs to keep that software updated.
>
> - Updating software is a command line or two, or just clicking Yes in
> the GUI and entering your password.
>
> For my personal needs, Google Docs is an excellent "office"
> application that covers the basic  needs of a word processor or
> spreadsheet, with effortless, real-time collaboration, which can not
> be said for Microsoft Office.  Maybe once a month or so when I need to
> run a native Windows App I just boot one in VMWare Workstation -- just
> like a Mac user would run Parallels.
>
> Occasionally, the Ubuntu way will irritate me, but it isn't the same
> level of irritation I tended to feel at OS X.  When I am irritated at
> Ubuntu I'm just getting what I paid for.  When OS X expects me to only
> do it their way I get really irritated because hey, I'm paying a
> premium for this and the customer is always right, so why is the
> customer denied their convenience?  (Why _can't_ the user enable
> FocusFollowsMouse?  Seriously!)
>
> I know I am the exception to the rule, but I gotta say, getting along
> with Ubuntu hasn't been any more difficult--generally easier
> than--other OSes, including Mac.  I suspect that if others are having
> this experience, Linux desktop market share may be set to start gaining.
>
> -danny
>
> -- 
> http://dannyman.toldme.com
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