From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Feb 3 15:42:12 2015 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:42:12 -0800 Subject: [Baylisa] Glad BayLISA retains some of its own operations Message-ID: <20150203234212.GV14659@linuxmafia.com> I notice BayLISA's trend of outsourcing to Meetup.com, and requiring Meetup.com membership for participation in most of what BayLISA does, continues. (I politely disagreed with the rest of the Board of Directors on this policy, and that was the reason I declined to run for another term.) Specifically: http://www.baylisa.org/ is now a 302 temporary redirect to http://www.meetup.com/BayLISA/ . Looks like that redirect was implemented some time in the 3rd quarter of 2014. The Meetup.com page includes 'We use Meetup to coordinate meeting attendance, announcements, and reminders. We have our official organizational presence on the web, including links to membership, sponsorship, and mailing lists, at www.baylisa.org [link].' In the current pages, there is actually no information whatsoever about the mailing lists, and no path to those mailing lists or the BayLISA Web site (if that Web site still exists). Direct Mailman links still work. For convenience, they are: http://www.baylisa.org/mailman/listinfo/baylisa http://www.baylisa.org/mailman/listinfo/baylisa-announce http://www.baylisa.org/mailman/listinfo/baylisa-jobs http://www.baylisa.org/mailman/listinfo/blw (membership limited) http://www.baylisa.org/mailman/listinfo/directors (membership limited) http://www.baylisa.org/mailman/listinfo/members (membership limited) OTOH, the Meetup page _does_ advertise under 'Discussions' a message board and a mailing list, both of which appear to be accessible using Meetup.com membership only. I'm curious about whether the current Board intends to reinstitute BayLISA's own Web site at some point. (However, I am not at this point a BayLISA member, only a member of the seemingly vestigial and unadvertised Mailman mailing lists.)