From david at catwhisker.org  Thu Jul  5 09:30:10 2012
From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:30:10 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Interesting reactions to Cisco/Linksys goings-on
Message-ID: <20120705163010.GM1544@albert.catwhisker.org>

Someone at work [disclosure: my employer considers Cisco its biggest
competitor] directed our attention to
<http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/cisco-locks-customers-out-of-t.html>.

Some of that material may well be of interest to folks involved in
BayLISA.

Peace,
david
-- 
David H. Wolfskill				david at catwhisker.org
Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil.

See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key.
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From rick at linuxmafia.com  Mon Jul  9 20:29:21 2012
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 20:29:21 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Interesting reactions to Cisco/Linksys goings-on
In-Reply-To: <20120705163010.GM1544@albert.catwhisker.org>
References: <20120705163010.GM1544@albert.catwhisker.org>
Message-ID: <20120710032921.GU26325@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting David Wolfskill (david at catwhisker.org):

> Someone at work [disclosure: my employer considers Cisco its biggest
> competitor] directed our attention to
> <http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/cisco-locks-customers-out-of-t.html>.
> 
> Some of that material may well be of interest to folks involved in
> BayLISA.

And in conclusion, how 'bout that OpenWRT?  ;->


From rnovak at indyramp.com  Mon Jul  9 20:39:26 2012
From: rnovak at indyramp.com (Robert Novak)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 20:39:26 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Interesting reactions to Cisco/Linksys goings-on
In-Reply-To: <20120710032921.GU26325@linuxmafia.com>
References: <20120705163010.GM1544@albert.catwhisker.org>
	<20120710032921.GU26325@linuxmafia.com>
Message-ID: <CAO5JrL72hLjCra9F_O41ti+_WFsNz=Th948-v94RDB=Ms=6_jA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting David Wolfskill (david at catwhisker.org):
>
>> Someone at work [disclosure: my employer considers Cisco its biggest
>> competitor] directed our attention to
>> <http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/cisco-locks-customers-out-of-t.html>.
>>
>> Some of that material may well be of interest to folks involved in
>> BayLISA.
>
> And in conclusion, how 'bout that OpenWRT?  ;->

Only the latest EA-series routers were affected by this "feature"
rollout. And I don't see those routers on the OpenWRT (or DDWRT)
lists.

So those of you with open firmware capable Linksys gear would have
been safe anyway, and those of you with the most recent 2-3 models,
well, you'll be able to roll back this change and hope for Marvell
chipset support, from what I'm reading.

Curse, or blessing, little of column A, little of column B either way
I guess. :)

Rob

From rayw at rayw.net  Mon Jul  9 21:20:22 2012
From: rayw at rayw.net (Ray Wong)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 21:20:22 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Interesting reactions to Cisco/Linksys goings-on
In-Reply-To: <CAO5JrL72hLjCra9F_O41ti+_WFsNz=Th948-v94RDB=Ms=6_jA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120705163010.GM1544@albert.catwhisker.org>
	<20120710032921.GU26325@linuxmafia.com>
	<CAO5JrL72hLjCra9F_O41ti+_WFsNz=Th948-v94RDB=Ms=6_jA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM8Fm=54QqdbZdJWu1q+RDpkXBcwpBvFQ9EVLj2rGAMZFoK4kw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Robert Novak <rnovak at indyramp.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
>> Quoting David Wolfskill (david at catwhisker.org):
>>
>>> Someone at work [disclosure: my employer considers Cisco its biggest
>>> competitor] directed our attention to
>>> <http://boingboing.net/2012/07/03/cisco-locks-customers-out-of-t.html>.
>>>
>>> Some of that material may well be of interest to folks involved in
>>> BayLISA.
>>
>> And in conclusion, how 'bout that OpenWRT?  ;->
>
> Only the latest EA-series routers were affected by this "feature"
> rollout. And I don't see those routers on the OpenWRT (or DDWRT)
> lists.
>
> So those of you with open firmware capable Linksys gear would have
> been safe anyway, and those of you with the most recent 2-3 models,
> well, you'll be able to roll back this change and hope for Marvell
> chipset support, from what I'm reading.
>
> Curse, or blessing, little of column A, little of column B either way
> I guess. :)


Some of each, I'd agree. The automatic firmware upgrade feature and
the ability to keep the entire configuration not only backed up, but
easily pulled down to a replacement router is actually probably pretty
useful for a lot of small businesses who don't really have dedicated
people handling their networks. The EA series are aimed at small
enterprises who're too small to have someone screwing around with IOS
alll day, but wanting more than the usual SOHO routing toasters. OTOH,
even some of them likely have use for routers that aren't internet
connected, and the new firmware apparently crippled a lot of the EA's
administrative abilities when in "offline" mode.

Mostly just a PR disaster for Cisco that they rolled it out without
warning anyone or explaining it all ahead of time, creating a lot of
confusion, I'd say.

From rick at linuxmafia.com  Mon Jul  9 23:47:59 2012
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:47:59 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Interesting reactions to Cisco/Linksys goings-on
In-Reply-To: <CAO5JrL72hLjCra9F_O41ti+_WFsNz=Th948-v94RDB=Ms=6_jA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120705163010.GM1544@albert.catwhisker.org>
	<20120710032921.GU26325@linuxmafia.com>
	<CAO5JrL72hLjCra9F_O41ti+_WFsNz=Th948-v94RDB=Ms=6_jA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120710064759.GT16264@linuxmafia.com>

Quoting Robert Novak (rnovak at indyramp.com):

> Only the latest EA-series routers were affected by this "feature"
> rollout. And I don't see those routers on the OpenWRT (or DDWRT)
> lists.

Looks like it won't be long for the EA2700, though, FWIW:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=153481

The EA4500 and EA3500 are the two with Marvell SoCs.


From rnovak at indyramp.com  Wed Jul 11 11:49:23 2012
From: rnovak at indyramp.com (Robert Novak)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:49:23 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] BayLISA for July 2012 - IPv6 with Jason Fesler!
Message-ID: <CAO5JrL4D1jiV-KfKGEOMMTifGvv9iiHUmooR1aBTjiSD1+WFyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Next BayLISA meeting:
===== IPv6 with Yahoo!'s Jason Fesler =====
July 19, 2012, 7:30pm at LinkedIn Mountain View
Details/RSVP at http://www.meetup.com/BayLISA/events/42779382/

Coming in August:
Solaris-themed meeting
August 16, 2012, 7:30pm
Sponsored/hosted by Joyent in SAN FRANCISCO
Details coming soon/RSVP at http://www.meetup.com/BayLISA/events/42780152/

We're looking for speakers/topics for fall meetings in Mountain View
and thereabouts. If you're interested in presenting, or have a
suggestion, please get in touch.

Thanks,
Robert Novak
BayLISA President

From rnovak at indyramp.com  Tue Jul 17 15:37:58 2012
From: rnovak at indyramp.com (Robert Novak)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:37:58 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Reminder - IPv6 at BayLISA this week (San Francisco Bay
	Area/Silicon Valley)
Message-ID: <CAO5JrL6ZEyfanVchdF3EtbuB1TLw4hHCuZ2Y4y2Q_U0cNMaQVA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

This month's BayLISA meeting is two days away. Come see Jason Fesler,
Distinguished Architect at Yahoo!, talk about real-world IPv6.

Meeting is 7/19/2012 at 7:30pm, 2051 Stierlin Ct "Culture Club"
Details/RSVP at http://www.meetup.com/BayLISA/events/42779382/

We currently have a full set of RSVPs and a waiting list, but if
you're interested in joining us, do RSVP anyway. We'll adjust the head
count as we confirm the room configuration, and people will probably
un-RSVP before then. So sign up if you're interested in joining us.

Also, while we're still working out the details for our Solaris-themed
meeting in San Francisco in August, we're pleased to announce that
Joyent will be hosting us on the Embarcadero for that meeting. Feel
free to sign up for that meeting if you're interested and you'll be
the first to get the updates.

Solaris in San Francisco: 8/16/2012 at 7:30pm, Joyent HQ, San Francisco
Details (soon) and RSVP at http://www.meetup.com/BayLISA/events/42780152/

We'll be back in Silicon Valley for September's meeting. Watch for
details once we have them.

See you at an upcoming meeting...

Robert Novak
BayLISA President

From rnovak at indyramp.com  Mon Jul 23 16:36:25 2012
From: rnovak at indyramp.com (Robert Novak)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:36:25 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Solaris-related topics -- what would you like to hear
	about?
Message-ID: <CAO5JrL4cXTfSZpUw8UJM5sh95XgumrtOmgu3dwup+8cuiDmsbw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I'm working with the folks at Joyent to refine our desired topics for
the August 16 Solaris-themed meeting.

Details (as they come) and RSVP at:
http://www.meetup.com/BayLISA/events/42780152/

If you'd be interested in coming to this meeting or viewing the video
afterward, what Solaris-related topics would be of interest to you ?

We're already looking at an overview of SmartOS, the current state of
ZFS, and possibly a revisiting of Dynamic Tracing that we learned
about last spring.

But if there's a topic of interest to you that we haven't thought of
yet, please speak up. We're trying to find enough to interest as many
attendees as we can.

Thanks, all.

Robert Novak
BayLISA President

From guy at extragalactic.net  Mon Jul 30 11:41:41 2012
From: guy at extragalactic.net (Guy B. Purcell)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:41:41 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Solaris-related topics -- what would you like to hear
	about?
In-Reply-To: <CAO5JrL4cXTfSZpUw8UJM5sh95XgumrtOmgu3dwup+8cuiDmsbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5JrL4cXTfSZpUw8UJM5sh95XgumrtOmgu3dwup+8cuiDmsbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <102E7F1D-A9B0-4B0B-94C1-97A57646AA42@extragalactic.net>


On Jul 23, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Robert Novak wrote:

> I'm working with the folks at Joyent to refine our desired topics for
> the August 16 Solaris-themed meeting.
> 
> [...]
> 
> We're already looking at an overview of SmartOS, the current state of
> ZFS, and possibly a revisiting of Dynamic Tracing that we learned
> about last spring.
> 
> But if there's a topic of interest to you that we haven't thought of
> yet, please speak up. We're trying to find enough to interest as many
> attendees as we can.


My wish list:

* Explanation of Illumos itself (vs., say, "OpenSolaris") & current state affairs (forks/spinoffs & comparison to Solaris 11)

* Installation overview (esp. converting a Solaris 10 build environment to build Illumos-based hosts)

* IPS (and perhaps changes to JS due to it) & available publishers/repos

* New features of ZFS in Illumos

* New features of DTrace in Illumos

I think the new features & Illumos overview could be done fairly quickly (and the latter leading into an overview of SmartOS itself, and any other specific forks folks may want to hear about).  I'd love to see the IPS delved into with more depth:  it's something fundamental to at least some of the forks & has never been touched at BayLISA before.

-Guy


From rob.markovic at gmail.com  Mon Jul 30 19:47:38 2012
From: rob.markovic at gmail.com (Rob Markovic)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:47:38 -0700
Subject: [Baylisa] Cloud SIG - Google Compute Engine
Message-ID: <CAMJVQOWpJhkbZyZaspD4QFVi+nPNsjWLedtWx43j6pVTrN-zUA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear BayLISA Members,

It is with short notice and long pleasure that I present you with a BayLISA
membership perk for attending the next Cloud SIG event at the Silicon
Valley Cloud Center<http://maps.google.com/maps?q=222+Caspian+Drive+%2C+Sunnyvale%2C+CA>
.

When you mention that you are a member and heard about the event from "
baylisa.com" you will receive a 50% discount on the entry fee.

For all other details, please visit the event meetup page:
http://www.meetup.com/SVForum-CloudSIG/events/57643602/

Enjoy the event,

-- Rob
BayLISA Board