From guy at extragalactic.net Mon Nov 1 23:37:28 2010 From: guy at extragalactic.net (Guy B. Purcell) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:37:28 -0700 Subject: Call for volunteers Message-ID: <7F0A7E0D-47C0-4AAB-BF82-235285725F42@extragalactic.net> Hi All, 'Tis election season again, and that's true for BayLISA, too: our annual election for members of our board of directors will occur at this month's meeting, Thursday, Nov. 18, 2010. This year, we have three seats up for election and only one candidate thus far. While our bylaws do permit filling just the one seat, we would much prefer to fill them all, so if you're at all interested in helping to run this organization, please come to the meeting and volunteer for a seat on the board. Note that one of the advantages of being on the board is that you're automatically a member of BayLISA: your board service is accepted in lieu of membership dues (you're still welcome to pay dues if you wish, but you don't have to ;^) Election of board members will be by a simple majority of voting members present at the Nov. meeting. -Guy P. S. I'll announce the speaker & topic as soon as I have final confirmation some time this week. From mbh.lists at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 14:19:05 2010 From: mbh.lists at gmail.com (Matt Harrington) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:19:05 -0700 Subject: recommendation for temperature loggers? Message-ID: Anyone have a recommended temperature logger? There appear to be several interesting ones here: http://www.microdaq.com/data-logger/temperature/1.php Bonus points for not needing any drivers installed. Windows support is fine, but extra bonus ports for being cross-platform. Matt From mbh.lists at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 14:21:31 2010 From: mbh.lists at gmail.com (Matt Harrington) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:21:31 -0700 Subject: Filtering baylisa@baylisa.org in Gmail? Message-ID: I can't figure out the best way to filter baylisa at baylisa.org messages in Gmail. Sorting on "To" isn't ideal, since I'd like to not filter a message addressed to both me and the list. Filtering on the Sender field would be OK (I think), but I don't believe Gmail supports that. Matt From asheesh at asheesh.org Wed Nov 3 14:35:58 2010 From: asheesh at asheesh.org (Asheesh Laroia) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Filtering baylisa@baylisa.org in Gmail? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Matt Harrington wrote: > I can't figure out the best way to filter baylisa at baylisa.org messages > in Gmail. Sorting on "To" isn't ideal, since I'd like to not filter a > message addressed to both me and the list. > > Filtering on the Sender field would be OK (I think), but I don't > believe Gmail supports that. Baylisa emails seem to have this header: Sender: owner-baylisa(AT)baylisa.org (it's @ not (AT) but I wrote it that way in case owner-baylisa at baylisa.org prefers to minimize how often spambots see that address.) Mailing lists that use more modern software provide a List-Id header. Messages that are directly to you and the list will skip this filter, because you'll receive them first before you also receive the copy via the mailing list. Just another procmail user, -- Asheesh. -- Always the dullness of the fool is the whetstone of the wits. -- William Shakespeare, "As You Like It" From david at catwhisker.org Wed Nov 3 14:37:02 2010 From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:37:02 -0700 Subject: Filtering baylisa@baylisa.org in Gmail? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20101103213702.GN1980@albert.catwhisker.org> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:21:31PM -0700, Matt Harrington wrote: > I can't figure out the best way to filter baylisa at baylisa.org messages > in Gmail. Sorting on "To" isn't ideal, since I'd like to not filter a > message addressed to both me and the list. > > Filtering on the Sender field would be OK (I think), but I don't > believe Gmail supports that. I've never used Gmail, so I can't speak to that, but I can confirm that each message that comes through $LIST at baylsa.org will have a Sender header of "owner-$LIST at baylisa.org". There are plans to start migrating mail service to a new machine soonish, so there may be other changes at some point. Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david at catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mbh.lists at gmail.com Wed Nov 3 14:51:59 2010 From: mbh.lists at gmail.com (Matt Harrington) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 14:51:59 -0700 Subject: Filtering baylisa@baylisa.org in Gmail? In-Reply-To: <20101103213702.GN1980@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20101103213702.GN1980@albert.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: > There are plans to start migrating mail service to a new machine soonish, > so there may be other changes at some point. Good to hear. If you're taking suggestions, GNU Mailman appears to work well. Matt From david at catwhisker.org Wed Nov 3 15:08:39 2010 From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:08:39 -0700 Subject: Filtering baylisa@baylisa.org in Gmail? In-Reply-To: References: <20101103213702.GN1980@albert.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: <20101103220839.GO1980@albert.catwhisker.org> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 02:51:59PM -0700, Matt Harrington wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, David Wolfskill wrote: > > > There are plans to start migrating mail service to a new machine soonish, > > so there may be other changes at some point. > > > Good to hear. If you're taking suggestions, GNU Mailman appears to work well. While I will be available as a resource for the migration and any conversions from Majordomo, I will not be leading the effort. At the end of the process, I expect to have retired as postmaster at baylisa.org. As for Mailman: for the tiny number of lists and miniscule volume @baylisa.org, that might work. My experience administering Mailman for FreeBSD.org has, however, left me with a very jaundiced view of Mailman and just about everything associated with it. (The FreeBSD project has well over 100 technical mailing lists. A couple of years ago, I tried running the "daily" job of rebuilding the search indices; it took over 29 hours. An attempt the following day (almost immediately after the first was finished, actually) also took over 29 hours. This was on a 4-core Opteron, IIRC. We've given up on ever using the Mailman/pipermail archives for searching, and still use the same WAIS-based search that we used with Majordomo: it runs for about an hour, once/week. In addition, Mailman list creation is a classic illustration of a race condition, apparently by design: it is necessary to create the list (in a state where it could receive traffic) in order to configure it. I consider this fundamentally broken by design. I'll stop now; I don't really have time to spend on this.) Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david at catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jesse at boldandbusted.com Wed Nov 3 15:27:57 2010 From: jesse at boldandbusted.com (jesse at boldandbusted.com) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 15:27:57 -0700 Subject: Filtering baylisa@baylisa.org in Gmail? In-Reply-To: References: <20101103213702.GN1980@albert.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: <1288823277.24546.1403475771@webmail.messagingengine.com> FWIW, Gentoo uses mlmmj: http://mlmmj.org/ . Here's their topic page on their mailing lists: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml I'm subscribed to several (in digest form), and they seem to handle medium and high-traffic lists quite well, and haven't had major issues in a long time (years). Cheers, Jesse Adelman Bold and Busted LLC http://www.boldandbusted.com/ goes back to lurking on BayLISA On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:51 -0700, "Matt Harrington" wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, David Wolfskill > wrote: > > > There are plans to start migrating mail service to a new machine soonish, > > so there may be other changes at some point. > > > Good to hear. If you're taking suggestions, GNU Mailman appears to work > well. > > Matt > From robi at baylisa.org Fri Nov 5 12:12:05 2010 From: robi at baylisa.org (Rob) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 12:12:05 -0700 Subject: Upcoming FOSS events Message-ID: Hello All, Here are some FOSS events you may like to attend: Saturday 6th Geeknic Heather Farms, Walnut Creek. http://geeknic.org/?p=139 Or if you like to use that Facebook stuff: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=114159221980753 Saturday 13th -Fedora 14 Release Party - Walnut Creek Saxbys Coffee shop Free Cake, refreshments, USB drives, and various other assorted SWAG. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F14_Bay_Area Facebook link: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=157661377604070 Monday, November 15, 2010 Creative Commons Salon, 7:00-9:00 PM http://wiki.creativecommons.org/San_Francisco_Salon Wednesday, December 15th Partimus First Fundraiser *Save the date* http://partimus.org/fundraising_event_2010.php Saturday, January 15th Community Leadership Summit West - All day http://www.meetup.com/clswest/calendar/13850251/ Various times, Ubuntu Hour - San Francisco, San Jose, Mountain View http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california Best, -- Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guy at extragalactic.net Fri Nov 12 11:17:57 2010 From: guy at extragalactic.net (Guy B. Purcell) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:17:57 -0800 Subject: 2010 Nov. BayLISA meeting Message-ID: <1AF19165-0DB0-42BD-9ADD-2DB0BD6F6B93@extragalactic.net> Our November meeting is almost upon us! This month, we're having... * SeaMicro come to share details of their product with us * Board of directors elections * Camaraderie When: Thursday, Nov. 18 @ 19:30 Where: LinkedIn HQ Details: -Guy From guy at extragalactic.net Thu Nov 18 15:25:46 2010 From: guy at extragalactic.net (Guy B. Purcell) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 15:25:46 -0800 Subject: BayLISA meeting reminder Message-ID: Remember--meeting *tonight*... When: Thursday, Nov. 18 @19:30 Where: LinkedIn HQ, 2029 Stierlin Ct., 94043 Details: Speaker/topic is SeaMicro--and we have board elections before the talk. -Guy From david at catwhisker.org Fri Nov 19 10:25:02 2010 From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:25:02 -0800 Subject: Resolved: strftime() should provide a way to access sub-second info Message-ID: <20101119182502.GV1705@albert.catwhisker.org> At least in FreeBSD, date(1) can use whatever "format" specification strftime() can grok; using that, one may customize the output fairly flexibly. However (again, in FreeBSD), there does not seem to be a strftime() specification to request the fractions of a second. And 1 second is rather a long time for a computer nowadays.... I'm thinkking of writing a patch to strftime() to enable this, but I think of at least a couple of ways to accomplish this -- e.g.: * Provide a conversion character that is replaced by a floating-point value X, 0 <= X < 1. I'm not keen on this, as I doubt that strftime() currently makes use of floating-point, and I'd rather not impose floating-poiont as a requirement for this ability. (I haven't actually looked at the code yet.) * Provide 2 conversion characters: one for the value (as an integer); the other (also an integer) to be an exponent of 10 to be used to normalize the value (e.g., -6 for microseconds). * Provide 2 conversion charactewrs: one for the value (as an integer); the other (also an integer) to be the denominator of the fraction (for which the first value is the numerator) (e.g., 1000000 for microseconds). I don't want to get too involved in "licensing" issues (my code would be BSD-licensed), but I think it would be helpful if different implementations had similar APIs. So does anyone know offhand of prior applicable art? Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david at catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. 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