From eser at us.ibm.com Wed Jul 2 09:37:59 2008 From: eser at us.ibm.com (Eser Kandogan) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:37:59 -0700 Subject: tell your experience at ACM CHIMIT'08 (co-located with LISA) Message-ID: Call for Experience Reports to ACM CHIMIT'08 ACM CHIMIT'08 (Computer Human Interaction for Management of Information Technology), November 14-15, 2008, San Diego CHIMIT'08 is co-located with LISA, only 10 minutes from the LISA conference center. If you will be there you should consider submitting your experience... CHIMIT 2008 will include a new experience report session to share insights from actual practice. Accepted reports will be presented in a special Experience Report Session, allowing authors to share and discuss their experience with all symposium participants. This session is expected to be highly interactive. Experience reports are non-archival. While reports will not be published in the Symposium Proceedings and ACM Digital Library they will be available on the Symposium web site, prior to the symposium start date. Preparation Guidelines Please submit a 1-2 paragraph summary of an experience you can share from the practice of IT management, involving some kind of interface between people and technology. Additionally, please submit brief answers to all of the following questions: When did the experience take place? What was your personal role in the experience? How many people were involved in or affected by the experience? What was the financial or business impact of the experience? What do you think is the top insight about human interfaces for IT management from the experience? What changes for you or your organization were motivated by this and/or similar experiences? We are interested in answers to these questions to evaluate the overall contribution to the symposium of a discussion of the experience, not because we are seeking only reports on major events or deep insights. A problem successfully solved by a couple of sysadmins that illustrates some issue of UI in management of a complex network is as relevant as a case study of a failure with major impact but a simple root. Presentations of accepted reports can include more details and discussion than is included in the brief summary and answers submitted. We want to encourage informal storytelling with lots of interaction during the session. Submission Experience report submissions should be e-mailed to the Program Co-Chairs (programchairs at chimit08.org). Only PDF version of reports is accepted. All submissions must be received by the chairs by 5:00pm Pacific Time on July 14, 2008. Submissions received after this date/time will not be considered. All submissions will be acknowledged by e-mail. 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Accepted reports will be presented in a special Experience Report Session, allowing authors to share and discuss their experience with all symposium participants. This session is expected to be highly interactive. Experience reports are non-archival. While reports will not be published in the Symposium Proceedings and ACM Digital Library they will be available on the Symposium web site, prior to the symposium start date. Preparation Guidelines Please submit a 1-2 paragraph summary of an experience you can share from the practice of IT management, involving some kind of interface between people and technology. Additionally, please submit brief answers to all of the following questions: When did the experience take place? What was your personal role in the experience? How many people were involved in or affected by the experience? What was the financial or business impact of the experience? What do you think is the top insight about human interfaces for IT management from the experience? What changes for you or your organization were motivated by this and/or similar experiences? We are interested in answers to these questions to evaluate the overall contribution to the symposium of a discussion of the experience, not because we are seeking only reports on major events or deep insights. A problem successfully solved by a couple of sysadmins that illustrates some issue of UI in management of a complex network is as relevant as a case study of a failure with major impact but a simple root. Presentations of accepted reports can include more details and discussion than is included in the brief summary and answers submitted. We want to encourage informal storytelling with lots of interaction during the session. Submission Experience report submissions should be e-mailed to the Program Co-Chairs (programchairs at chimit08.org). Only PDF version of reports is accepted. All submissions must be received by the chairs by 5:00pm Pacific Time on July 14, 2008. Submissions received after this date/time will not be considered. All submissions will be acknowledged by e-mail. Authors will be notified on August 18, 2008. All questions regarding reports should be directed to Program Co-Chairs. Eser Kandogan AEleen Frisch CHIMIT'08 General Chairs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sigje at sigje.org Thu Jul 3 22:30:48 2008 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upcoming: Linux 17th Anniversary Picnic Message-ID: <20080703222440.R77721@slick.sigje.org> Picn*x XVII, the Linux Picnic, is August 9, 2008 at Sunnyvale Baylands Park. Please make sure to add it to your calendar if you are interested in going. This is a free and open event, families are welcome to come. The original Linux Picnic was on the 10th anniversary of the Linux kernel. It was decided since then that Picn*x is to celebrate the accomplishments of all Open Source Software since the first Linux kernel was released in August 1991. The names Picn*x and Linux Picnic are used interchangeably. Any non-profit Open Source related organization who promotes the picnic on their web site and mail lists, and encourages their members to volunteer is welcome to join the open source partner organization list for the picnic. This gives your organization a chance to connect with other potential users who would be interested in your events! If you want to help, we'll be happy to accept help with setup, registration table, cooking, and then cleanup at the end. We are also happy to accept sponsorships as it does cost money to feed everyone :) Thanks! Jennifer From iennae at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 21:52:17 2008 From: iennae at gmail.com (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:52:17 -0700 Subject: Recommending "one" book to any System Administrator Message-ID: For many years I have recommended either Essential System Administration from O'Reilly, or The Practice of System and Network Administration from Addison Wesley, but I have recently really gotten into Modern Operating Systems. I think it's essential with a lot of fundamentals that could help with some of the critical thinking processes that are part of being a _good_ system administrator. It's really making me reevaluate how I would frame a "Introduction to System Administration" course. What book do you recommend as sort of the general purpose system administrator book and why? -- Jennifer Davis From benjy at feen.com Fri Jul 11 10:56:56 2008 From: benjy at feen.com (Benjy Feen) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:56:56 -0700 Subject: Recommending "one" book to any System Administrator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27d46a10807111056i2a74978x9a51612054587e20@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Jennifer Davis wrote: > What book do you recommend as sort of the general purpose system > administrator book and why? I now recommend TPOSANA for two reasons: It eschews platform specifics, and therefore gets to spend its time on stuff that few books ever touch, especially things like solid process and good policy. The 2nd edition has my name in the acknowledgements ;) From asher.yanich at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 13:23:31 2008 From: asher.yanich at gmail.com (Asher Yanich) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:23:31 -0700 Subject: Recommending "one" book to any System Administrator In-Reply-To: <27d46a10807111056i2a74978x9a51612054587e20@mail.gmail.com> References: <27d46a10807111056i2a74978x9a51612054587e20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://www.amazon.com/Trepanation-Robert-Arnott/dp/9026519230 cheers, -asher On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Benjy Feen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Jennifer Davis wrote: >> What book do you recommend as sort of the general purpose system >> administrator book and why? > > I now recommend TPOSANA for two reasons: > > It eschews platform specifics, and therefore gets to spend its time on > stuff that few books ever touch, especially things like solid process > and good policy. > > The 2nd edition has my name in the acknowledgements ;) > From jxh at jxh.com Fri Jul 11 14:14:58 2008 From: jxh at jxh.com (Jim Hickstein) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:14:58 -0500 Subject: Recommending "one" book to any System Administrator In-Reply-To: References: <27d46a10807111056i2a74978x9a51612054587e20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4877CD52.6010301@jxh.com> Asher Yanich wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/Trepanation-Robert-Arnott/dp/9026519230 OK, then: This was recommended to me by a sysadmin as his "favorite LART". He is one sick puppy. Wasn't me, honest. P.S. The Internet did not create any of these things. From mikey at dsbp.cx Fri Jul 11 23:10:17 2008 From: mikey at dsbp.cx (Michael Turner) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:10:17 -0700 Subject: Recommending "one" book to any System Administrator In-Reply-To: References: <27d46a10807111056i2a74978x9a51612054587e20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48784AC9.1000206@dsbp.cx> I need that like I need a hole in the head. Asher Yanich wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/Trepanation-Robert-Arnott/dp/9026519230 > > cheers, > -asher > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Benjy Feen wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Jennifer Davis wrote: >> >>> What book do you recommend as sort of the general purpose system >>> administrator book and why? >>> >> I now recommend TPOSANA for two reasons: >> >> It eschews platform specifics, and therefore gets to spend its time on >> stuff that few books ever touch, especially things like solid process >> and good policy. >> >> The 2nd edition has my name in the acknowledgements ;) >> >> > > > From iennae at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 16:04:18 2008 From: iennae at gmail.com (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:04:18 -0700 Subject: Meeting Tonight! Message-ID: There is a meeting tonight. Jonathan Adams will be presenting on Dtrace over here at the standard BayLISA meeting location in building E on the Yahoo campus. Directions: http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/address.cfm Don't turn right past the guard shack. Turn left into the big empty parking lot in front of Building E. I also have a bunch of USENIX latest ;login to pass out, as well as some security conference brochures. We have a discount to the conference (let me know if you are interested). -- Jennifer Davis From david at catwhisker.org Tue Jul 22 13:45:35 2008 From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:45:35 -0700 Subject: BIND recursive resolver exploit? Message-ID: <20080722204535.GG13924@bunrab.catwhisker.org> The FreeBSD lists have been fairly active recently in discussing the (somewhat-)recently disclosed vulnerability in BIND that (IIRC) targets recursive resolvers (by poisoning their caches). I'm mildly surprised that there's not been more discussion of it here, as it does cross OS lines pretty thoroughly. The current circumvention appears to be to ensure that DNS query source ports are properly randomized, while the purported fix is to implement DNSSEC. For my name servers, I configure them so that they only honor recursive queries from within my network; I gather, though, that this does not avoid the issue, as it would still be possible to place a reference (e.g., a URL) to a particular DNS zone to cause my name server to perform a query that is at least strongly influenced by an untrusted party outside my network. Comments? Or is this all old hat? Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david at catwhisker.org I submit that "conspiracy" would be an appropriate collective noun for cats. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20080722204535.GG13924@bunrab.catwhisker.org> References: <20080722204535.GG13924@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Message-ID: <1216767365.6608.29.camel@largo.maxsp.local> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 13:45 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > The FreeBSD lists have been fairly active recently in discussing the > (somewhat-)recently disclosed vulnerability in BIND that (IIRC) targets > recursive resolvers (by poisoning their caches). > > I'm mildly surprised that there's not been more discussion of it here, > as it does cross OS lines pretty thoroughly. > > The current circumvention appears to be to ensure that DNS query source > ports are properly randomized, while the purported fix is to implement > DNSSEC. > > For my name servers, I configure them so that they only honor recursive > queries from within my network; I gather, though, that this does not > avoid the issue, as it would still be possible to place a reference > (e.g., a URL) to a particular DNS zone to cause my name server to > perform a query that is at least strongly influenced by an untrusted > party outside my network. > > Comments? Or is this all old hat? > > Peace, > david >From what I have been reading, the issue is that the nounce (query ID) is just 16 bits. There seems to be two issues. The first is that the random number generators (used to create the nounce) tend to not be random enough. The second is that 16 bit nounce is not enough space. So there are a couple fixes: Best fix is a protocol update to move the nounce from 16 bits to 128 bits. Not immediately feasible due to cross implementation issues/backwards compatibility. Use DNSSEC. Not really feasible because of compute resources for zone signing/signature authentication/trust infrastructure build-out. Work around: Fix the random number generator. Artificially extend the nounce by making the source port part of it. What you will see is that every outbound query will have a different random source port. So, if you have 200 concurrent recursive queries out in the wild, you will have 200 random open UDP ports. (One per query.) 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URL: From sigje at sigje.org Thu Jul 24 12:49:32 2008 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PenLUG] TONIGHT: PenLUG meeting 07/24/2008 (fwd) Message-ID: <20080724124913.V38739@slick.sigje.org> Forwarding on for interested parties. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:00:08 -0700 From: bill at wards.net To: members at penlug.org Subject: [PenLUG] TONIGHT: PenLUG meeting 07/24/2008 PENINSULA LINUX USERS' GROUP (PenLUG) PRESENTS: +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |Date: |Thursday, July 24th, 2008 | |---------+-----------------------------------------------------| |Time: |meeting 7:00 - 9:00 PM, social/networking until 10 PM| |---------+-----------------------------------------------------| | |Bayshore Technology Park | |Location:|1300 Island Drive | | |Redwood City, CA 94065 | | |Suite 106 - Training Room | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Robert Scott, Alpaca Although Linux has all of the necessary tools to do networking, including gateway devices, it is missing a comprehensive configuration utility to stitch it all together. At the end of the day, networking in Linux is hard, and we thought it was time for a change. We wanted something that was powerful, easy to use and looked good. We wanted to make open source networking sexy. Thus, we embarked on a journey to unite both classical and romantic beauty by marrying some of the most powerful tools in Linux Networking with some of the most celebrated web technologies. What emerged was the *Untangle Net Alpaca* -- a new open source networking utility that presents a consistent, reliable platform for setting up a wide range of networking tasks, including PPPoE Management, NAT, Redirect, Packet Filtering, Bridging, DNS, DHCP (dnsmasq), and more. At this talk, we will go through the design and function of Untangle Net Alpaca and demonstrate how you can use it to easily provide network services at the gateway. Robert Scott is a keyboard operator at Untangle. He is a passionate member of the Free and Open Source Software community with over 10 years of Linux experience and dedicates some of his time to developing an Open Source Car Stereo at cadvium.net. He enjoys working in a wide range of languages and development environments. He graduated with a degree in Computer Science from Harvard University in 2002. RSVP Although it is not required, we like to have an idea of how many people to expect, so if possible please email rsvp at penlug.org if you are planning to attend. GETTING THERE For information on getting to the meeting, please see: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=1300+Island+Drive,+Redwood+City,+CA http://www.penlug.org/twiki/bin/view/Home/DrivingDirectionsQualys http://www.penlug.org/twiki/bin/view/Home/TransitDirectionsQualys Traffic on 101 can be pretty bad in the evening, so we encourage you to check traffic conditions before driving by dialing 5-1-1 on your phone or visiting www.511.org, and if possible to take public transit (best bet: bicycle via Caltrain) or carpool to this meeting. MORE INFORMATION See www.penlug.org for more information. This notice is being sent to the following mailing lists: members at penlug.org Please reply to suggest any additions or other changes. _______________________________________________ PenLUG-Members mailing list PenLUG-Members at penlug.org http://www.penlug.org/mailman/listinfo/penlug-members From afife at untangle.com Thu Jul 24 12:55:11 2008 From: afife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Installfest for Schools Message-ID: <010801c8edc7$2f03eb80$8d0bc280$@com> Hi Folks: I'm very pleased to announce that Untangle & ACCRC have teamed up with LinuxWorld (Aug 5-7) for our second Installfest for Schools. The first ACCRC/Untangle Installfest for Schools in March refurbished 350 Ubuntu computers for schools[1]. This time we've gotten a large booth on the expo floor and will have workstations setup for volunteers to refurbish recycled computers with Ubuntu and GnewSense. We particularly need help with the following: 1)Installing Ubuntu and/or gNewSense 2)Hacking older hardware and identifying good/bad components You can signup for a work station here: http://www.untangle.com/installfest Also, if you know of a school in need of computers that's willing to try GNU/Linux please nominate them here: http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_collect&task=installfestNomin ate&Itemid=1426 And if you have an older computer that you want to donate or recycle, please bring it to LinuxWorld. ACCRC will have a collection booth setup and can provide tax deductable receipts. PIII and newer systems will be refurbished with Ubuntu for schools. Older systems will be recycled properly by the ACCRC. Lastly, we are always looking for help getting the word out. If you want to give the event some love on your blog, Digg, StumbleUpon, Slashdot, or some crazy forum please link to the main installfest page, which is http://www.untangle.com/installfest Thanks so much for your help! -Andrew P.S. The LinuxWorld Expo free if you register before the conference starts here: https://register.rcsreg.com/regos-1.0/lnsf2008/ga/index2.html References: [1]Here is a writeup of the first event: http://lwn.net/Articles/273770/ and here are some pictures: http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=355&Item id=139 -- Andrew Fife Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway www.untangle.com/download 650.425.3327 desk 415.806.6028 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Jul 29 00:51:35 2008 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:51:35 -0700 Subject: BIND recursive resolver exploit? In-Reply-To: <1216767365.6608.29.camel@largo.maxsp.local> References: <20080722204535.GG13924@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <1216767365.6608.29.camel@largo.maxsp.local> Message-ID: <20080729075134.GO10437@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Robert Hajime Lanning (lanning at lanning.cc): > From what I have been reading, the issue is that the nounce (query ID) > is just 16 bits. ...and about half the resursive-resolver nameserver software in common use, and all (?) common "stub" resolver libraries, originate recursive-resolver queries from a fixed, predictable source port, usually 53, with the result that the information required to believably forge a reply to the query approximates 16 bits of variability, which isn't enough. _However_, OS "stub" resolver libraries are not a credible target for this particular threat, because they don't cache results.[1] Consequently, there's no cache to poison, and attacks don't pay off well. The obvious way to protect resolver libraries against even that much of a threat is to have /etc/resolv.conf point to a _local_ recursive-resolver nameserver via 127.0.0.1, and ensure that the nameserver software package is one that randomises _its_ source ports for recursive-resolver queries: BIND9's July 8th "P1" patches, djb's dnscache, PowerDNS Recursor, MaraDNS, or Unbound. Maybe Posadis, Oak DNS Server, Twisted Names, Yaku-NS, lbdns, dnsjava. (Avoid pre-P1 BIND9, any BIND8, unpatched pdnsd, unpatched dnsmasq.) And of course border filtering against spoofed traffic is good, and ACLs on the recursive-resolver limiting what IPs are allowed to send it recursive queries couldn't hurt (but aren't a cure-all for the reasons David cited). Bestiary: "DNS Servers" on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Network_Other/ [1] Absent things like nscd, both the Linux and Solaris implementations of which have somewhat regrettable reputations, and should ideally not be used to cache hostnames in the first place. (I'm not sure about FreeBSD's "cached", which occupies a similar niche.) From pmui at groundworkopensource.com Tue Jul 29 11:04:27 2008 From: pmui at groundworkopensource.com (Peter Mui) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:04:27 -0700 Subject: Monitoring SIG LinuxWorld Week Festivities -- Next Week! Message-ID: Hi: The BayLISA Monitoring SIG is proud to offer this fantastic lineup of activities in conjunction with LinuxWorld Expo August 4-8 (that's next week!) Register for a free exhibits pass in advance (to avoid long lines) at: http://linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015 (Use GroundWork Open Source's Priority Code VPL712 to see if that gets you anything extra.) ================================================================== The activities are: 1) Tuesday, Aug 5, 11:30-12:30: Conference Session on IT Monitoring ("Just Add Water...") 2) Wednesday, Aug 6, 6PM IT Monitoring BoF (BoF 17) 3) Wednesday, Aug 6, 7:30PM Meet-n-Greet Reception and Dinner at Henry's Hunan, 110 Natoma 4) All Week: Cacti "Project in Residence" at GroundWork Open Source Here are details of the events: ================================================================== 1) Conference Session on IT Monitoring: Just Add Water: Tips to Managing, Monitoring and Scaling the Wild and Wooly IT Environment Tuesday, August 5 2008, 11:30 am - 12:30 pm (Caution: You may need a full conference registration to attend this session.) ================================================================== 2) IT Monitoring BoF Wednesday, 6PM (BOF17) BOF17: Common Mistakes when Installing or Configuring OSS Monitoring Tools Wednesday, Aug 6 2007, 6:00 PM - 7:00 PM (Notes: 1) You only need a free exhibits pass to attend this BoF 2) This BoF is immediately followed by (3) below) ================================================================== 3) What: BayLISA Monitoring SIG XVI: LinuxWorld Meet-n-Greet Reception featuring 1) Special Guests Cacti Development Team and 2) Ganglia Project "We're Almost There..." v 3.1 Pre-release Celebration Who: Anyone interested in IT monitoring issues and tools (newbies particularly welcome!) When: Wednesday, August 6, 7:30 PM Where: Henry's Hunan Chinese Restaurant, 110 Natoma St. (Between 2nd and New Montgomery -- Near Moscone) (415) 546-4999 How: Consider making a day of it by signing up for a free exhibit hall pass for LinuxWorld at: http://linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/register//SN335015 You can get into the exhibits hall, attend the GroundWork BoF from 6-7, and then come to the reception. Cost: Free, but RSVP mandatory (see below) RSVP: Email Peter Mui, pmui at groundworkopensource.com ================================================================== 4) All Week: Cacti "Project in Residence" at GroundWork Open Source The Cacti Team will be the "Project in Residence" at GroundWork Open Souce LinuxWorld week: they'll be fixing bugs, assessing feature requests, and setting priorities for the direction of Cacti. Their meetings are open, and Cacti enthusiasts are invited as observers: email Peter Mui, pmui at groundworkopensource.com if you want to attend. ================================================================== Let me know if you have questions, hope to see you (multiple times) next week! -Peter Peter Mui, Community Director GROUNDWORK Open Source, Inc. 139 Townsend Street, Suite 100 San Francisco, CA 94107-1946 +1 415 992 4573 pmui at groundworkopensource.com www.groundworkopensource.com NOTICE: This email is intended only for the use of the party to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited.If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. 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