From sigje at sigje.org Tue Sep 5 17:03:59 2006 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Survey participation from the 451 Group on Virtualization Message-ID: If you are interested in participating in the 451 Group Virtualization survey it's available here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=276762523970 I checked it out, it's a very short survey..maybe 5 minutes of time. I think it will be helpful in forming a picture to the virtualization companies as to how system administrators are using virtualization if at all. BayLISA members will get access to the report once it is published. Jennifer From Brent at greatcircle.com Mon Sep 11 10:19:19 2006 From: Brent at greatcircle.com (Brent Chapman) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:19:19 -0700 Subject: Next Tuesday 9/19: TechReach Silicon Valley Sim Day Message-ID: TechReach International is a new non-profit organization being formed to deploy no-cost telecommunications services into humanitarian relief efforts, using trained/certified volunteer communications specialists and state of the art technology. On Tuesday 19 September 2006, from 12:30pm to 6:30pm, TechReach International will be hosting a "Simulation Day" on the Intuit campus in Mountain View, to demonstrate proven technologies in a simulated field environment. We're actively seeking technical and support volunteers to join our organization, as well as sponsors, donors, and partners. If you're interested in learning more and perhaps contributing to this effort, please visit us at Sim Day! Sim Day will encompass a variety of activities, including: * A crisis communications center that utilizes satellite communications, low-power computers, and wireless networks to provide Internet access and voice communications. * Speakers on topics such as experiences working as a volunteer in a disaster relief effort, emergency response capacity building, map-based "situational awareness" tools for managing critical information in relief conditions, and technologies designed for austere environments and underserved communities. * Demonstrations of successful applications that have potential for nonprofit users, including project management tools, VoIP, blogging, podcasts, distributing photography from the field, and new ways to mobilize support and get the message out. * Networking opportunities for technical and operations managers, program officers, and other nonprofit leaders. Share your success stories and challenges with others in your field of humanitarian and nonprofit work. For full details about the event, including a map and a schedule of speakers, please visit our web site at http://www.techri.org/ We look forward to seeing you at Sim Day! -Brent -- Brent Chapman -- Great Circle Associates, Inc. Specializing in network infrastructure for Silicon Valley since 1989 For info about us and our services, please see http://www.greatcircle.com/ Great Circle Waypoints Blog: http://www.greatcircle.com/blog From lgj at usenix.org Mon Sep 11 10:43:17 2006 From: lgj at usenix.org (Lionel G. Jones) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:43:17 -0700 Subject: 20th Large Installation System Administration Conference Message-ID: <4505A035.5070904@usenix.org> ----------------------------------------------------------- LISA '06: 20th Large Installation System Administration Conference http://www.usenix.org/lisa06/proga December 3-8, 2006, Washington, D.C. Early Bird Registration Deadline: November 10, 2006 Sponsored by USENIX and SAGE ----------------------------------------------------------- Dear Colleague: On behalf of all of the LISA '06 organizers, I'd like to invite you to join us in Washington, D.C., for the 20th Large Installation System Administration Conference. For the past 19 years LISA has been the focal point for the global community of system and network administrators. This year LISA continues that tradition, featuring innovative tools and techniques essential for your professional and technical development. Take advantage of the popular 6 days of training. Select from over 50 tutorials taught by highly expert instructors, including: -- Gerald Carter on Ethereal and the Art of Debugging Networks -- Richard Bejtlich on TCP/IP Weapons -- AEleen Frisch on Administering Linux in Production Environments -- Chip Salzenberg on Higher-Order Perl -- And more . . . The full training program can be found at http://www.usenix.org/lisa06/training/ In addition to the training, 3 days of technical sessions include top-notch refereed papers, informative invited talks, expert Guru Is In sessions, and the popular Hit the Ground Running track. http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa06/tech/ * Our 20+ invited talks feature our most impressive slate of speakers to date. They include: -- Keynote: "Hollywood's Secret War on Your NOC," by Cory Doctorow, co-editor of Boing Boing and former Director of European Affairs for the EFF -- "Open Source Software and Its Role in Space Exploration," by DJ Byrne, Jet Propulsion Laboratory -- "Teaching Problem Solving: You Can and You Should," by Elizabeth Zwicky, Acuitus -- "Corporate Security: A Hacker Perspective," by Mark "Simple Nomad" Loveless, Vernier Networks, Inc. -- "Black Ops 2006: Pattern Recognition" by Dan Kaminsky, DoxPara Research -- "High Availability: From Luxury to Commonplace Necessity in 10 Years," by Eric Hennessey, Symantec Corp. * LISA is the premier forum for presenting new research in system administration. We selected papers from over 40 submissions, showcasing state-of-the-art work on topics including system and network management, theory, visualization, security, electronic mail, and more. * Get a head start on key technologies with 15-minute talks in the Hit the Ground Running track. Find out about the basic concepts, what acronyms you will encounter, and what Web sites and books are the best resources. http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa06/htg.html * Bring your perplexing technical questions to experts at LISA's Guru Is In sessions. * And much more . . . Explore the latest commercial innovations at the Vendor Exhibition. Benefit from new opportunities for peer interaction around the topics that mean the most to you. For complete program information and to register, see http://www.usenix.org/lisa06/proga For a behind-the-scenes look at the conference and a sneak preview of some of the cool new things happening this year, visit the LISA '06 blog at http://blog.lisaconference.org Early registration discounts for LISA '06, taking place December 3-8, 2006, in Washington, D.C. are now available. Register by Friday, November 10, and save up to $300! We're pleased to bring LISA to Washington, D.C., and look forward to seeing you there. On behalf of the LISA '06 Program Committee, William LeFebvre lisa06chair at usenix.org ----------------------------------------------------------- LISA '06: 20th Large Installation System Administration Conference http://www.usenix.org/lisa06/proga December 3-8, 2006, Washington, D.C. Early Bird Registration Deadline: November 10, 2006 Sponsored by USENIX and SAGE ----------------------------------------------------------- From pcubbage at opencountry.com Wed Sep 13 11:54:15 2006 From: pcubbage at opencountry.com (Paul Cubbage) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:54:15 -0700 Subject: Webmin Webminar, Tues, Sept 19, 1:00 p.m. Message-ID: <450853D7.2050004@opencountry.com> Current Webinar Open Country presents: Webmin & Bacula **The Open Management Consortium, *** **What does it mean for Webmin Users** *Tuesday, September 19, 1:00pm PDT. In this webinar, Jamie Cameron explains what the Open Management Consortium is and what it means for webmin users. The Consortium will promote the benefits offered by open source and open standard technologies and will provide a forum for product development collaboration among open source IT management projects. Webmin and Open Country are both members of this consortium. Go to http://www.opencountry.com/products/products_webmin.html to register for this free event. From pcubbage at opencountry.com Wed Sep 13 14:51:05 2006 From: pcubbage at opencountry.com (Paul Cubbage) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:51:05 -0700 Subject: Webmin Webminar, Tues, Sept 19, 1:00 p.m. - Oops! correction Message-ID: <45087D49.1060901@opencountry.com> Current Webinar Open Country presents: **The Open Management Consortium, *** **What does it mean for Webmin Users** *Tuesday, September 19, 1:00pm PDT. In this webinar, Jamie Cameron explains what the Open Management Consortium is and what it means for webmin users. The Consortium will promote the benefits offered by open source and open standard technologies and will provide a forum for product development collaboration among open source IT management projects. Webmin and Open Country are both members of this consortium. Go to http://www.opencountry.com/products/products_webmin.html to register for this free event. From sigje at sigje.org Mon Sep 18 18:06:14 2006 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: BayLISA Meeting: This Thursday September 21, 2006 Message-ID: Yes, we do have a BayLISA meeting on Thursday, September 21, 2006 starting at 7pm. Please be ON TIME for the meeting as we have two speakers. The first talk will be on Vendor Relationships, creating them, getting the best prices, and managing your relationships. James Holtz will be presenting from Insight Investments. The second talk will be all about ZFS. Bill Moore and Jeff Bonwick from Sun will be presenting. Pizza and drinks will be available so skip dinner and just head over. Doors will be open at 7pm. Presentations will start ~7:15 so that we can get the 2+ hours of ZFS completely in. From jgross at stimpy.net Tue Sep 19 18:38:35 2006 From: jgross at stimpy.net (Joe Gross) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:38:35 -0700 Subject: Favorite Microsoft VARs? Message-ID: <20060920013835.GA61473@felix.stimpy.net> I'm in the process of planning an integration of Exchange into an all-UNIX environment. We don't have any Windows other than desktops right now so I know I'll need to set up AD/etc. I'm also planning on keeping our IMAP environment for the sake of those who don't want to use Exchange. Does anyone have a favorite VAR that knows Exchange as well as UNIX? Thanks! Joe From nicole at unixgirl.com Wed Sep 20 11:48:09 2006 From: nicole at unixgirl.com (Nicole) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Help in selecting router please Message-ID: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> Hi I was wondering if anyone could assist in helping me with a problem. I have bandwidth that is exceeding our 1Gb fiber drop from our colo providor, so I need to add another. So do so, I will need to move to a router or routing switch that can use BGP (as that is all that our colo providor offers) to support load balancing across the two fiber drops. Then provide at least 2 preferably 4 or more 1Gb copper or fiber ports to connect to our switches. Once we start talking multiple gigabit routing, I am in over my head and the costs seem extreemly high. I was wondering if anyone could reccomend a solution or router that may be less than stratosferic in cost. Thanks Nicole -- From michael at halligan.org Wed Sep 20 12:54:11 2006 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:54:11 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> Message-ID: <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> Nicole wrote: > Hi > I was wondering if anyone could assist in helping me with a problem. > > I have bandwidth that is exceeding our 1Gb fiber drop from our > colo providor, so I need to add another. So do so, I will need to move to a > router or routing switch that can use BGP (as that is all that our colo providor > offers) to support load balancing across the two fiber drops. Then provide at > least 2 preferably 4 or more 1Gb copper or fiber ports to connect to our > switches. > > Once we start talking multiple gigabit routing, I am in over my head and the > costs seem extreemly high. I was wondering if anyone could reccomend a solution > or router that may be less than stratosferic in cost. > > > Thanks > > Nicole > > You might look at the Cisco 7604. It can handle your load and is reasonably priced at around $10k. I think it maxes out at about 3gb/s, however. We installed a fully-redundant 7604 at a customer recently. They're pushing 3gb/s over 4x1gb fibre uplinks. We sold them the hardware with tax, shipping, and setup as a package for $42k. From davejohanson at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 13:31:26 2006 From: davejohanson at gmail.com (Dave Johanson) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:31:26 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> Message-ID: <842254bf0609201331y55adfc8v93b465b0d765a0f0@mail.gmail.com> I have used Cisco in the past and now have been working with Juniper routers for the past 2+ years. You cannot beat the raw performance, reliability and feature set of Juniper Routers (even though they will cost more). You get what you pay for in this case. Dave J. On 9/20/06, Nicole wrote: > > Hi > I was wondering if anyone could assist in helping me with a problem. > > I have bandwidth that is exceeding our 1Gb fiber drop from our > colo providor, so I need to add another. So do so, I will need to move to a > router or routing switch that can use BGP (as that is all that our colo providor > offers) to support load balancing across the two fiber drops. Then provide at > least 2 preferably 4 or more 1Gb copper or fiber ports to connect to our > switches. > > Once we start talking multiple gigabit routing, I am in over my head and the > costs seem extreemly high. I was wondering if anyone could reccomend a solution > or router that may be less than stratosferic in cost. > > > Thanks > > Nicole > > > > > > -- > > From michael at halligan.org Wed Sep 20 13:57:03 2006 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 13:57:03 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> Message-ID: <4511AB1F.4030205@halligan.org> Michael T. Halligan wrote: > Nicole wrote: >> Hi >> I was wondering if anyone could assist in helping me with a problem. >> >> I have bandwidth that is exceeding our 1Gb fiber drop from our >> colo providor, so I need to add another. So do so, I will need to >> move to a >> router or routing switch that can use BGP (as that is all that our >> colo providor >> offers) to support load balancing across the two fiber drops. Then >> provide at >> least 2 preferably 4 or more 1Gb copper or fiber ports to connect to our >> switches. >> Once we start talking multiple gigabit routing, I am in over my head >> and the >> costs seem extreemly high. I was wondering if anyone could reccomend >> a solution >> or router that may be less than stratosferic in cost. >> >> Thanks >> >> Nicole >> >> > > You might look at the Cisco 7604. It can handle your load and is > reasonably priced at around $10k. I think > it maxes out at about 3gb/s, however. We installed a fully-redundant > 7604 at a customer recently. They're > pushing 3gb/s over 4x1gb fibre uplinks. We sold them the hardware with > tax, shipping, and setup as a package > for $42k. Err, cut and paste gone wrong. The Cisco 7301 can do 3gb/s for $10k. The Cisco 7604, fully redundant (power, sups, etc) that we just installed for a customer was around $42k with shipping/tax/setup. From pozar at lns.com Wed Sep 20 15:19:41 2006 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:19:41 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> Message-ID: <4511BE7D.60304@lns.com> If all you need is a box with say 3 fiber drops and some twisted pairs, you can do this with a 2821 very nicely. Great box. You can even put 10Gb/s fiber cards in this box too. Tim Michael T. Halligan wrote: > Nicole wrote: >> Hi >> I was wondering if anyone could assist in helping me with a problem. >> >> I have bandwidth that is exceeding our 1Gb fiber drop from our >> colo providor, so I need to add another. So do so, I will need to move >> to a >> router or routing switch that can use BGP (as that is all that our >> colo providor >> offers) to support load balancing across the two fiber drops. Then >> provide at >> least 2 preferably 4 or more 1Gb copper or fiber ports to connect to our >> switches. >> Once we start talking multiple gigabit routing, I am in over my head >> and the >> costs seem extreemly high. I was wondering if anyone could reccomend a >> solution >> or router that may be less than stratosferic in cost. >> >> Thanks >> >> Nicole >> >> > > You might look at the Cisco 7604. It can handle your load and is > reasonably priced at around $10k. I think > it maxes out at about 3gb/s, however. We installed a fully-redundant > 7604 at a customer recently. They're > pushing 3gb/s over 4x1gb fibre uplinks. We sold them the hardware with > tax, shipping, and setup as a package > for $42k. -- 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA // POTS: +1 415 665 3790 GPG Fingerprint: 4821 CFDA 06E7 49F3 BF05 3F02 11E3 390F 8338 5B04 Life is playful - Ben Olizar From michael at halligan.org Wed Sep 20 15:31:17 2006 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:31:17 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <4511BE7D.60304@lns.com> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> <4511BE7D.60304@lns.com> Message-ID: <4511C135.5000101@halligan.org> A full BGP route table on the 2821 pushing 3gb/s? Not according to cisco. Tim Pozar wrote: > If all you need is a box with say 3 fiber drops and some twisted pairs, > you can do this with a 2821 very nicely. Great box. You can even put > 10Gb/s fiber cards in this box too. > > Tim > > Michael T. Halligan wrote: > >> Nicole wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> I was wondering if anyone could assist in helping me with a problem. >>> >>> I have bandwidth that is exceeding our 1Gb fiber drop from our >>> colo providor, so I need to add another. So do so, I will need to move >>> to a >>> router or routing switch that can use BGP (as that is all that our >>> colo providor >>> offers) to support load balancing across the two fiber drops. Then >>> provide at >>> least 2 preferably 4 or more 1Gb copper or fiber ports to connect to our >>> switches. >>> Once we start talking multiple gigabit routing, I am in over my head >>> and the >>> costs seem extreemly high. I was wondering if anyone could reccomend a >>> solution >>> or router that may be less than stratosferic in cost. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Nicole >>> >>> >>> >> You might look at the Cisco 7604. It can handle your load and is >> reasonably priced at around $10k. I think >> it maxes out at about 3gb/s, however. We installed a fully-redundant >> 7604 at a customer recently. They're >> pushing 3gb/s over 4x1gb fibre uplinks. We sold them the hardware with >> tax, shipping, and setup as a package >> for $42k. >> > > > From pozar at lns.com Wed Sep 20 15:37:07 2006 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:37:07 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <4511C135.5000101@halligan.org> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> <4511BE7D.60304@lns.com> <4511C135.5000101@halligan.org> Message-ID: <4511C293.9080406@lns.com> Michael T. Halligan wrote: > A full BGP route table on the 2821 pushing 3gb/s? Not according to cisco. Hmmm... We be doing it right now with a customer. Tim -- 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA // POTS: +1 415 665 3790 GPG Fingerprint: 4821 CFDA 06E7 49F3 BF05 3F02 11E3 390F 8338 5B04 Life is playful - Ben Olizar From pozar at lns.com Wed Sep 20 15:38:18 2006 From: pozar at lns.com (Tim Pozar) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:38:18 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <4511C135.5000101@halligan.org> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> <4511BE7D.60304@lns.com> <4511C135.5000101@halligan.org> Message-ID: <4511C2DA.8060200@lns.com> Michael T. Halligan wrote: > A full BGP route table on the 2821 pushing 3gb/s? Not according to cisco. To continue... I wouldn't push it much beyond that. If folks get serious, then I would point them at something like a Juniper M7i. Tim -- 1978 45th Ave / San Francisco CA 94116 / USA // POTS: +1 415 665 3790 GPG Fingerprint: 4821 CFDA 06E7 49F3 BF05 3F02 11E3 390F 8338 5B04 Life is playful - Ben Olizar From michael at halligan.org Wed Sep 20 15:48:25 2006 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:48:25 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <4511C2DA.8060200@lns.com> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> <4511BE7D.60304@lns.com> <4511C135.5000101@halligan.org> <4511C2DA.8060200@lns.com> Message-ID: <4511C539.6060406@halligan.org> Tim Pozar wrote: > Michael T. Halligan wrote: > >> A full BGP route table on the 2821 pushing 3gb/s? Not according to cisco. >> > > To continue... I wouldn't push it much beyond that. If folks get > serious, then I would point them at something like a Juniper M7i. > > Tim > What's strange is cisco's 2821 limited performance documentation only bothers showing bandwidth in the low 10s of megabits/second. From michael at halligan.org Wed Sep 20 16:15:36 2006 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:15:36 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <4511C539.6060406@halligan.org> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> <45119C63.6090705@halligan.org> <4511BE7D.60304@lns.com> <4511C135.5000101@halligan.org> <4511C2DA.8060200@lns.com> <4511C539.6060406@halligan.org> Message-ID: <4511CB98.2070803@halligan.org> Michael T. Halligan wrote: > Tim Pozar wrote: >> Michael T. Halligan wrote: >> >>> A full BGP route table on the 2821 pushing 3gb/s? Not according to >>> cisco. >>> >> >> To continue... I wouldn't push it much beyond that. If folks get >> serious, then I would point them at something like a Juniper M7i. >> >> Tim >> > > What's strange is cisco's 2821 limited performance documentation only > bothers showing bandwidth in the low > 10s of megabits/second. I found this router performance chart after quite a bit of digging: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/765/tools/quickreference/routerperformance.pdf Cisco rates the 2821 at 170kPPS or 87.3mbps.. It could be that Cisco is purposefully underspecifying it's hardware to promote buying larger gear? Though, honestly I have trouble believing that a $3k router can push 3gb/s of bgp routed traffic. From kashani-list at badapple.net Wed Sep 20 16:47:27 2006 From: kashani-list at badapple.net (kashani) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:47:27 -0700 Subject: Help in selecting router please In-Reply-To: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> References: <20060920184809.DD3AF20F22@krell.webweaver.net> Message-ID: <4511D30F.4070600@badapple.net> Nicole wrote: > Hi > I was wondering if anyone could assist in helping me with a problem. > > I have bandwidth that is exceeding our 1Gb fiber drop from our > colo provider, so I need to add another. So do so, I will need to move to a > router or routing switch that can use BGP (as that is all that our colo providor > offers) to support load balancing across the two fiber drops. Then provide at > least 2 preferably 4 or more 1Gb copper or fiber ports to connect to our > switches. > > Once we start talking multiple gigabit routing, I am in over my head and the > costs seem extreemly high. I was wondering if anyone could reccomend a solution > or router that may be less than stratosferic in cost. I was last a routing geek in 2001 and haven't really kept up with the technology. However I don't think there is enough info here about your infrastructure to make a decent suggestion. Here's a couple of questions to get things going and some router ramblings. Are you getting a connection to a different provider or the same provider? If it's the same provider you can etherchannel or whatever your vendors calls it from your gear to their gear with your current switch. Not a terribly fancy solution, but it should work if both sides are reasonably modern. If it is two providers you're pretty much stuck with BGP. That leads us to the next question, do you need/want full BGP routes? I might consider asking for a default route from each provider, 0.0.0.0/0, and then 10-15k of their peering routes rather than the whole 120-150k routes a full table could be. Your total BGP table should be no more than 40-50k routes which could fit into 32MB IIRC. That means you can get a cheap(er) routing engine w/128-256MB for your current big dumb switch. Of course all that depends on which big dumb switch you already own. I wouldn't do full routes with two providers with anything less than 128MB for the record and more RAM is always better. Are you going to be pushing significantly more traffic in the near future? If yes, it might be worth your time to have a real routing infrastructure rather than half assing it. Full BGP tables allows you to pick better and hopefully faster routes, load balance across many providers, which leads to fault tolerance at least at the routing layer. Additionally it allows you to negotiate bandwidth prices and gives you the knobs to use your bandwidth as effectively as possible. You can also go the opposite way and keep a smaller network and use a content delivery network if you're all http or something similar. CDNs are often no cheaper than doing yourself, but require less initial cash and personnel. Ramin From sigje at sigje.org Thu Sep 21 17:20:21 2006 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: DON'T FORGET! BayLISA tonight! Message-ID: ZFS and Managing your Vendor Relationships Directions: Location: Yahoo Inc! Bldg E, classroom 9. 700 First Avenue Sunnyvale, CA Directions to Yahoo : >From San Jose: . Take 101 North and exit on Mathilda Avenue. . Turn right on Mathilda and continue to First Avenue (also marked as Bordeaux on the right). . Make a left on First Avenue. . turn first left into Bldg E. parking lot. A security guard will be available to let you into the Bldg. at the main door >From San Francisco: . Take 101 South and exit onto 237 east (Alviso/Milpitas exit). . Merge onto 237 and exit immediately toward Mathilda Avenue. . Turn left onto Mathilda Avenue and continue to First Avenue (also marked as Bordeaux on the right). . Make a left on First Avenue. . turn first left into Bldg E. parking lot. A security guard will be available to let you into the Bldg. at the main door (If you miss the 237 exit off 101 South, continue to Lawrence Expressway North exit. Turn left and continue on Lawrence Expressway North, which turns into Caribbean Way. First Avenue is a few miles up on the right side.) From sigje at sigje.org Fri Sep 22 11:59:19 2006 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Interesting article - IT's 7 Deadly Career Sins Message-ID: http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/09/18/38FEjobspitfall_1.html Not only is the article interesting.. "The Long View: Jobs in 2014" stats sidebar has things like Network and computer system adimistrators 38.4% increase with Network systems and data communications analysis 54.6% increase. Thoughts? From david at catwhisker.org Sat Sep 23 19:46:10 2006 From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:46:10 -0700 Subject: Interesting article - IT's 7 Deadly Career Sins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060924024610.GI698@bunrab.catwhisker.org> On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:59:19AM -0700, Jennifer Davis wrote: > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/09/18/38FEjobspitfall_1.html > > Not only is the article interesting.. "The Long View: Jobs in 2014" stats > sidebar has things like Network and computer system adimistrators 38.4% > increase with Network systems and data communications analysis 54.6% > increase. > > Thoughts? Dunno; much of what I read as I skimmed the article seemed pretty much self-evident to me -- which doesn't say that I necessarily follow the advice all that well. In my own defense, much of the article appeared to me to have been written from what I would view as a very "Corporate" perspective -- and since switching from being a systems programmer in the IBM mainframe world to being a UNIX sysadmin back in late 1993, I've rarely been in such environments myself. I did find the advice "If you fail to heed the fine print in work agreements, the contracting agency may have you on the hook for gigs you wouldn't be caught dead in -- had you not signed away your right to decline offers" rather ironic adjacent to an advert touting "Microsoft Windows Server System," since such an environment would, by definition, be one I wouldn't be caught dead in. Peace, david -- David H. Wolfskill david at catwhisker.org Believe SORBS at your own risk: 63.193.123.122 has been static since Aug 1999. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bill at wards.net Tue Sep 26 22:57:57 2006 From: bill at wards.net (Bill Ward) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:57:57 -0700 Subject: Peninsula Linux Users' Group this week - AJAX and Web 2.0 Message-ID: <3d2fe1780609262257u146bbc8bpcc913e6b3c4353@mail.gmail.com> PenLUG (Peninsula Linux Users' Group) is having a meeting the day after tomorrow! You are invited. RSVP is not required, but so we can get an idea of how many people to expect please send mail to rsvp at penlug.org to let us know if you are planning to attend. For full details about the group, as well as directions to the meeting, visit www.penlug.org. Free pizza, hors d'ouvres and soft drinks, courtesy of Open Country, will be provided. Free review copies of books from O'Reilly, Prentice-Hall, and other publishers, will be given out as door prizes. Be on time for the eary bird drawing. Date: Thursday, August 28th, 2006 Time: meeting 7:00 - 9:00 PM, social/networking until 10 PM Location: Twin Pines Park, 1225 Ralston Ave, Belmont, CA 94002 Speaker: Kevin Henrikson Topic: AJAX and Web 2.0 The state of AJAX has change a good bit since its debut or re-birth in 2005. We'll talk about what has changed and what it still the same in modern web development. AJAX optimization is extremely important for end-user usability and service scalability. Whether a new web 2.0 site or a large enterprise application, there are many techniques for optimization. This talk will touch on some Ajax application optimization techniques and some free tools that can help you identify and solve problems. Finally we'll cover webservices and show examples how some simple integrations can make today's web applications much more production than their desktop counterpart. Kevin Henrikson is a Director of Engineering at Zimbra. He splits time hacking on Zimbra's AJAX collaboration suite and managing developer relations with Zimbra's open source community. Previous to Zimbra Henrikson was at Openwave, an ISP and mobile carrier software provider. He is a frequent speaker on AJAX optimization, open source messaging, and related topics. Some recent talks include: * Leveraging AJAX for Enterprise Application Development (2006 LinuxWorld) * Leveraging Java? Technology to Integrate Messaging With Web 2.0 Power (2006 JavaOne) * Ajax Optimization Techniques: Working with Large Ajax Applications (2006 OSCON) From bill at wards.net Wed Sep 27 10:51:25 2006 From: bill at wards.net (Bill Ward) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:51:25 -0700 Subject: Peninsula Linux Users' Group this week - AJAX and Web 2.0 In-Reply-To: <3d2fe1780609262257u146bbc8bpcc913e6b3c4353@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d2fe1780609262257u146bbc8bpcc913e6b3c4353@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3d2fe1780609271051l6a98ab04l12f60aa3c52e9282@mail.gmail.com> In case it wasn't obvious, this should have said Thursday, SEPTEMBER 28th. It was a copy/paste error. Hope to see you tomorrow evening! On 9/26/06, Bill Ward wrote: > PenLUG (Peninsula Linux Users' Group) is having a meeting the day > after tomorrow! You are invited. RSVP is not required, but so we can > get an idea of how many people to expect please send mail to > rsvp at penlug.org to let us know if you are planning to attend. For > full details about the group, as well as directions to the meeting, > visit www.penlug.org. > > Free pizza, hors d'ouvres and soft drinks, courtesy of Open Country, > will be provided. Free review copies of books from O'Reilly, > Prentice-Hall, and other publishers, will be given out as door prizes. > Be on time for the eary bird drawing. > > Date: Thursday, August 28th, 2006 > Time: meeting 7:00 - 9:00 PM, social/networking until 10 PM > Location: Twin Pines Park, 1225 Ralston Ave, Belmont, CA 94002 > Speaker: Kevin Henrikson > Topic: AJAX and Web 2.0 > > The state of AJAX has change a good bit since its debut or re-birth in > 2005. We'll talk about what has changed and what it still the same in > modern web development. AJAX optimization is extremely important for > end-user usability and service scalability. Whether a new web 2.0 site > or a large enterprise application, there are many techniques for > optimization. This talk will touch on some Ajax application > optimization techniques and some free tools that can help you identify > and solve problems. Finally we'll cover webservices and show examples > how some simple integrations can make today's web applications much > more production than their desktop counterpart. > > Kevin Henrikson is a Director of Engineering at Zimbra. He splits time > hacking on Zimbra's AJAX collaboration suite and managing developer > relations with Zimbra's open source community. Previous to Zimbra > Henrikson was at Openwave, an ISP and mobile carrier software > provider. He is a frequent speaker on AJAX optimization, open source > messaging, and related topics. Some recent talks include: > > * Leveraging AJAX for Enterprise Application Development (2006 LinuxWorld) > * Leveraging Java? Technology to Integrate Messaging With Web 2.0 > Power (2006 JavaOne) > * Ajax Optimization Techniques: Working with Large Ajax > Applications (2006 OSCON) > -- Help bring back the San Jose Earthquakes - http://www.soccersiliconvalley.com/ From extasia at extasia.org Fri Sep 29 14:01:50 2006 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:01:50 -0700 Subject: X posts successes but faces more work Message-ID: <4c714a9c0609291401o1468b7e1re2800dcf84860b91@mail.gmail.com> http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2006/092506-x-window-system.html After a year of big successes, X Window System developers are confronting their tortured history. By Don Marti, LinuxWorld.com, 09/25/06 The X Window System is on a roll. There's good news for maintainers and users of the graphics subsystem that powers the visible face of Linux and BSD operating systems, on technical, organizational and licensing fronts. But behind the scenes, developers are seeking help with even more, and more fundamental, work. In December 2005, X made the transition from a monolithic package that included the X server, libraries and applications, to modular releases. Now, a security fix in one part of X can be addressed with a release of just that part. The modularization release included migrating the build system from an X-only tool, imake, to the industry-standard GNU Autotools. X development is now hosted at a new organization, the X.org Foundation. And the code has moved from CVS to the git version control system, the same one that Linux kernel developers use. [...] -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors.