From david at catwhisker.org Mon Mar 14 13:56:59 2005 From: david at catwhisker.org (David Wolfskill) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:56:59 -0800 Subject: [owner-baylisa@baylisa.org: BOUNCE baylisa@baylisa.org: Non-member submission from [Bill Crooke ]] Message-ID: <20050314215659.GK578@bunrab.catwhisker.org> baylisa^admin Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc14.comcast.net [216.148.227.89]) by www.baylisa.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2EImbSB002767 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.2.1.102] (c-24-4-252-118.client.comcast.net[24.4.252.118]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20050314184837014001gjske>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:48:37 +0000 Message-ID: <4235DC84.7050808 at thecrookes.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:48:36 -0800 From: Bill Crooke Reply-To: rsvp at penlug.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: baylisa at baylisa.org Subject: Peninsula Linux Users' Group, Thursday, Mar 24, 2005 X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peninsula Linux Users' Group, Thursday, Mar 24, 2005 We have a meeting of the Peninsula Linux Users' Group (PenLUG) this week! Here are the details about this meeting. For more information or directions go to http://www.penlug.org/ Our website is a TWiki; please feel free to create a user account and modify the website if you have something to contribute. Date: Thursday, March 24, 2005 Time: 7:00 - 9:00 PM Location: 100 Oracle Parkway, Redwood Shores, CA 94065 Room 104 Agenda: ======= 7:00 - 8:30 PM: Presentation by Stephen Street: "StreetFire Sound Labs" 8:30 - 9:00 PM: Members' Minutes 8:45 - 9:00 PM: Adjourn to IHOP (Belmont) for social & food time Presentation by Stephen Street: "StreetFire Sound Labs" ====================================================== StreetFire Sound Labs is the maker of the RBX1600 Digital Audio Server which LinuxDevices.com called "one of the most hacker-friendly products ever released". The RBX1600 includes three software components, the StreetRacer Linux OS based on MontaVista Linux, the Hades java client for Linux, OS X, and Windows, and the MediaOrb API, all of which will be available to developers under the GPL. Stephen Street, CEO and Founder of StreetFire Sound Labs, will discuss the MediaOrb architecture and the StreetFire Challenge. Members' Minutes ================ Members will have an opportunity to take a few minutes to... * Describe their latest Linux discovery * Ask questions and get help from other members * Discuss Linux projects You can just stand up and talk, or give a short demo or presentation. If you need audio/visual support for your Members' Minute, please contact me in advance to arrange for your needs. We have a limited number of books courtesy of Prentice-Hall and O'Reilly to give away as an added inducement to participate in this portion of the meeting. :-) RSVP ==== Although it is NOT required, we like to have an idea of how many people to expect, so if possible please email rsvp at penlug.org if you are planning to attend. Bill Crooke PenLUG Speaker Coordinator SVEvents is a free open Silicon Valley Tech events' annoncements list. To subscribe - visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SVEvents/join or send mail to:SVEvents-subscribe at yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SVEvents/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SVEvents-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From pmui at usenix.org Tue Mar 15 11:59:50 2005 From: pmui at usenix.org (Peter Mui) Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:59:50 -0800 Subject: Early bird registration deadline for USENIX'05: March 21 Message-ID: <263ce73f608890b55e033ffd4e877914@usenix.org> (Hi, is this an appropriate posting to this list? We don't want to be perceived as spamming. Thanks! -Peter) (cut here) ====================================================== (EARLY BIRD registration ends soon -- Monday, March 21) Register NOW for USENIX'05: the Annual Technical Conference of the Usenix Association at http://www.usenix.org/usenix05/progm. Come to Anaheim this April 10-15 for top-notch tutorials and technical sessions: this is the USENIX Association's 30th Anniversary, and we're celebrating with the strongest lineup of training and technical sessions ever: *** Nearly 40 tutorials, 20 of which are new, featuring: o Rik Farrow leading a hands-on Linux Security Class o Geoff Halprin on the Basic Skill of Troubleshooting o Mark-Jason Dominus conducting a Perl Program Repair Shop o Heison Chak discoursing on VoIP Principles and Practice o Jacob Farmer on Next-Generation Storage Networking (See details at http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix05/training/) *** Four concurrent tracks of Technical Sessions including Invited Talks, a Freenix (BSD/Linux) track, and a Guru track with your favorite academics and industry researchers on such timely topics as: o Spencer Shepler: NFSv4 o Running Virtualized Native Drivers in User Mode Linux o John Ousterhout: Faster Software Builds o IP Network extensions for accessing USB devices o Configuring hardware in a data center based on temperature o Eddie Kohler: DDoS Defense in Practice and Theory o A PC-based Open Source Voting Machine (and paper ballot!) o Surviving Internet Catastrophies (See details at http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix05/tech/) *** Keynote by George Dyson, historian and author of Darwin Among the Machines, will speak about John von Neumann's use of early computers to tackle previously intractable problems. *** Works-In-Progress Reports (WIPs) and Birds-of-a-Feather Sessions (BoFs) round out a rich week overflowing with presentations, information, and collaboration. *** Conference Reception celebrating the 30th Anniversary of USENIX! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- WHAT: USENIX '05 - Celebrating the 30th Anniversary of the USENIX Association WHEN: April 10-15, 2005 WHERE: Anaheim, CA: Marriott Hotel WHO: Anyone interested in state-of-the-art computing issues WHY: To get to and stay on the leading edge of practical and actionable research and tools HOW: http://www.usenix.org/usenix05/progm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Five or more people registering together get $100 off per person! Early-Bird Registration discounts end March 21, 2005 -- register NOW for the best pricing at: http://www.usenix.org/usenix05/progm ====================================================== From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Mar 16 13:42:03 2005 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:42:03 -0800 Subject: Th., Mar. 17: "LDAP: OpenLDAP, Netscape, iPlanet" by Tom Jackiewicz (BayLISA Monthly) Message-ID: <20050316214203.GD4118@linuxmafia.com> -------- Date: Thursday, 17 March 2005 Where: Apple Computer, Town Hall Building, upstairs meeting room http://www.baylisa.org/locations/current.html 7:30 pm Introductions and announcements 8:00 pm Formal presentation 9:45 pm After-meeting dinner/social outing (BJ's, next door) Tom Jackiewicz will present "LDAP: OpenLDAP, Netscape, iPlanet". Full abstract online: http://www.baylisa.org/events/ _______________________________________________ baylisa mailing list: baylisa at baylisa.org rsvp for meeting: rsvp at baylisa.org baylisa board (request to sponsor or present): blw at baylisa.org From Brent at greatcircle.com Thu Mar 17 21:22:56 2005 From: Brent at greatcircle.com (Brent Chapman) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:22:56 -0800 Subject: Network Automation blog launched Message-ID: As I mentioned at the meeting tonight, I'm particularly interested in network automation: automated network configuration and management; systems and tools (both free and commercial); forums where these areas are being considered and discussed; etc. I've launched a blog on the topic to share the information that I gather, and hopefully spark some interesting discussions. If you're at all interested in this topic, please check it out: http://www.greatcircle.com/blog/network_automation And if you've got anything to contribute on the topic, I'd love to hear from you. -Brent -- Brent Chapman -- Great Circle Associates, Inc. Specializing in network infrastructure for Silicon Valley since 1989 For info about us and our services, please see http://www.greatcircle.com/ Network Automation blog: http://www.greatcircle.com/blog/network_automation From bill at thecrookes.com Tue Mar 22 13:22:08 2005 From: bill at thecrookes.com (Bill Crooke) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:22:08 -0800 Subject: Peninsula Linux Users' Group, Thursday, Mar 24, 2005 Message-ID: <42408C80.1010107@thecrookes.com> Hi, Just a reminder that StreetFire Sounds Labs will be presenting at the PenLUG meeting this week on Thursday the 24th. At the end of the presentation there will be a drawing for a StreetFire RBX1600 Digital Audio Server worth $750.00, all you have to do is attend to enter! For those of you who are on the fence about attending, I encourage you to visit the following URLs to learn more about StreetFire. Interview with StreetFire Sound Labs CEO/Founder Stephen Street http://www.streetfiresound.com/interview.shtml Linux Devices Review of the RBX1600 http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4294729815.html MIT - LAMP - Library Access to Music Project http://icampus.mit.edu/projects/LAMP.shtml Bill Crooke PenLUG Speaker Coordinator _______________________________________________________________________________________ Peninsula Linux Users' Group, Thursday, Mar 24, 2005 We have a meeting of the Peninsula Linux Users' Group (PenLUG) this week! Here are the details about this meeting. For more information or directions go to http://www.penlug.org/ Our website is a TWiki; please feel free to create a user account and modify the website if you have something to contribute. Date: Thursday, March 24, 2005 Time: 7:00 - 9:00 PM Location: 100 Oracle Parkway, Redwood Shores, CA 94065 Room 104 Agenda: ======= 7:00 - 8:30 PM: Presentation by Stephen Street: "StreetFire Sound Labs" 8:30 - 9:00 PM: Members' Minutes 8:45 - 9:00 PM: Adjourn to IHOP (Belmont) for social & food time Presentation by Stephen Street: "StreetFire Sound Labs" ====================================================== StreetFire Sound Labs is the maker of the RBX1600 Digital Audio Server which LinuxDevices.com called "one of the most hacker-friendly products ever released". The RBX1600 includes three software components, the StreetRacer Linux OS based on MontaVista Linux, the Hades java client for Linux, OS X, and Windows, and the MediaOrb API, all of which will be available to developers under the GPL. Stephen Street, CEO and Founder of StreetFire Sound Labs, will discuss the MediaOrb architecture and the StreetFire Challenge. Members' Minutes ================ Members will have an opportunity to take a few minutes to... * Describe their latest Linux discovery * Ask questions and get help from other members * Discuss Linux projects You can just stand up and talk, or give a short demo or presentation. If you need audio/visual support for your Members' Minute, please contact me in advance to arrange for your needs. We have a limited number of books courtesy of Prentice-Hall and O'Reilly to give away as an added inducement to participate in this portion of the meeting. :-) RSVP ==== Although it is NOT required, we like to have an idea of how many people to expect, so if possible please email rsvp at penlug.org if you are planning to attend. Bill Crooke PenLUG Speaker Coordinator From Brent at greatcircle.com Tue Mar 22 16:07:28 2005 From: Brent at greatcircle.com (Brent Chapman) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:07:28 -0800 Subject: Someone was seeking a Japanese-speaking sysadmin? Message-ID: At last week's BayLISA meeting, somebody mentioned an opportunity for a Japanese-speaking sysadmin, but I don't recall who was talking about it. Whoever it was, can you please let me know? I have someone who might be a candidate, and I want to put them in touch with you. -Brent -- Brent Chapman -- Great Circle Associates, Inc. Specializing in network infrastructure for Silicon Valley since 1989 For info about us and our services, please see http://www.greatcircle.com/ Network Automation blog: http://www.greatcircle.com/blog/network_automation From danielle at usenix.org Wed Mar 23 13:23:49 2005 From: danielle at usenix.org (Danielle Young) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:23:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Call for Papers LISA'05 Message-ID: <200503232123.j2NLNnLd016235@voyager.usenix.org> -------------------------------------------------------------------- Call For Papers LISA '05: 19th Large Installation System Administration Conference December 4-9, 2005, San Diego, CA, USA http://www.usenix.org/lisa05/cfpa Submissions Deadline: May 10, 2005 Sponsored by USENIX and SAGE -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Colleague The LISA '05 organizers invite you to contribute proposals for refereed papers, invited talks, and workshops, plus any ideas you have Guru Is In sessions, Work-in-Progress reports, and training sessions. The Call for Participation with submission guidelines and sample topics can be found on the USENIX Web site at http://www.usenix.org/lisa05/cfpa The annual LISA conference is the meeting place of choice for system, network, security, and other computing administrators. Administrators of all specialties and levels of expertise meet at LISA to exchange ideas, sharpen skills, learn new techniques, debate current issues, and meet colleagues and friends. People representing every work assignment from the full-time position at a large site to the part-time one at a small shop come to LISA from over 30 countries, bringing divergent backgrounds and experience levels to the conference dedicated to them. System and network administrators from environments as diverse as academia, large corporations and small businesses, government organizations, and research sites find LISA to be The Place to go for training, education, networking, and interacting with their peers. The conference's diverse group of participants is matched by an equally broad spectrum of activities: * Training sessions for both beginners and experienced attendees cover many administrative topics ranging from basic administrative procedures to using cutting-edge technologies. * Technical sessions present the latest developments and ideas related to system and network administration. * Invited talks and panels discuss important and timely topics and often spark lively debates and conversation. * Work-in-progress reports (WiPs) provide brief peeks at next year's innovations. GET INVOLVED! * Submit a draft paper or extended abstract proposal for a refereed paper. * Suggest an invited talk speaker or a panel discussion topic. * Share your experience by leading a Guru Is In session. * Propose a training session topic. * Organize or suggest a Birds-of-a-Feather (BoF) session. * Email an idea to the chair: lisa05chair at usenix.org ------------------------------------------------------------ IMPORTANT DATES Submissions due: May 10, 2005 Notification to authors: June 2005 Final papers due: September 27, 2005 Submission guidelines and more information can be found at http://www.usenix.org/lisa05/cfpa Sponsored by USENIX and SAGE ------------------------------------------------------------- We look forward to hearing from you! On behalf of the LISA '05 Program Committee, David N. Blank-Edelman, Northeastern University CCIS lisa05chair at usenix.org From rsr at inorganic.org Wed Mar 23 23:25:24 2005 From: rsr at inorganic.org (Roy S. Rapoport) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:25:24 -0800 Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? Message-ID: <20050324072524.GA2239@puppy.inorganic.org> I've got a work need to get one of our Windows boxes (W2K3) to access some NFS shares. Anyone have an NFS client for Windows to recommend? Cost would ideally be low, but quality is more important. -roy From samlb at am-cath.org Wed Mar 23 23:43:52 2005 From: samlb at am-cath.org (Sam'l Bassett) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:43:52 -0800 Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: <20050324072524.GA2239@puppy.inorganic.org> References: <20050324072524.GA2239@puppy.inorganic.org> Message-ID: <1111650232.6148.97.camel@otter> Going at it backwards, Samba on a UNIX box will share out files and directories the Windoze way. Sam'l B. On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 23:25 -0800, Roy S. Rapoport wrote: > I've got a work need to get one of our Windows boxes (W2K3) to access some > NFS shares. Anyone have an NFS client for Windows to recommend? Cost would > ideally be low, but quality is more important. > > -roy From alvin at Mail.Linux-Consulting.com Thu Mar 24 00:00:53 2005 From: alvin at Mail.Linux-Consulting.com (Alvin Oga) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:00:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: <20050324072524.GA2239@puppy.inorganic.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Roy S. Rapoport wrote: > I've got a work need to get one of our Windows boxes (W2K3) to access some > NFS shares. Anyone have an NFS client for Windows to recommend? Cost would > ideally be low, but quality is more important. huh ?? what does the win2k need to do ?? cost is zero time is a few minutes to few days to get it working depending on the phase of the moon if the win2k need to write to linux:/home/roy than linux needs to have samba configured if linux needs to read win2k files, than linux needs to have ntfs enabled in the kernel - but do NOT use linux to erase ntfs files unless you're a gambler if you want linux to nfs mount windoze linux# mount windoze:\\C /mnt/windoze and do as you want with the box except for erasing ntfs files if you want windoze to read/write files in linux:/home/roy, configure linux:/etc/exports to export /home/roy and start up nfs on linux windoze would need to network map linux:/home/roy to Z: or whatever you call it drag and drop as you feel like on your windoze box lot more fun stuff to do with windoze and linux ... - no additional code/apps c ya alvin From rsr at inorganic.org Thu Mar 24 00:02:56 2005 From: rsr at inorganic.org (Roy S. Rapoport) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:02:56 -0800 Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: References: <20050324072524.GA2239@puppy.inorganic.org> Message-ID: <20050324080256.GA4439@puppy.inorganic.org> Gosh, I love it. A real, live "install Linux" answer. Thanks, guys! :) (And, BTW, if anyone knows of an NFS client for Windows they'd recommend, let me know). -roy From dan_bethe at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 00:08:13 2005 From: dan_bethe at yahoo.com (Dan Bethe) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:08:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050324080814.54444.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com> Yeah that's probably best and the most gratis/libre. Otherwise there's Services for Unix (http://microsoft.com/sfu) which won an award at Linuxworld Expo. :-/ --- Sam'l Bassett wrote: > Going at it backwards, Samba on a UNIX box will share out files and > directories the Windoze way. > > Sam'l B. > > On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 23:25 -0800, Roy S. Rapoport wrote: > > I've got a work need to get one of our Windows boxes (W2K3) to access some > > NFS shares. Anyone have an NFS client for Windows to recommend? Cost would > > ideally be low, but quality is more important. > > > > -roy > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dan_bethe at yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 00:33:47 2005 From: dan_bethe at yahoo.com (Dan Bethe) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:33:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050324083347.35370.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> > Gosh, I love it. A real, live "install Linux" answer. That's my job! > (And, BTW, if anyone knows of an NFS client for Windows they'd recommend, > let me know). Yeah http://microsoft.com/sfu has one. It says it's available for gratis download, but you'll have to make up an ID in order to check it out and see if it's a full product. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From rsr at inorganic.org Thu Mar 24 00:48:46 2005 From: rsr at inorganic.org (Roy S. Rapoport) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:48:46 -0800 Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: <20050324083347.35370.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324083347.35370.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050324084846.GA6779@puppy.inorganic.org> On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 12:33:47AM -0800, Dan Bethe wrote: > > > Gosh, I love it. A real, live "install Linux" answer. > > That's my job! :). In this case, I'm integrating a Windows box into a bunch of systems that I'd rather not futz with and in some ways don't even have root-type access to. It's easiest to get Windows to do NFS than to counter this, for now, if I can find an easy enough solution. > Yeah http://microsoft.com/sfu has one. It says it's available for gratis > download, but you'll have to make up an ID in order to check it out and see if > it's a full product. Yeah, I'm the proud owner of a .net Passport. I'm very, very excited. Not. Downloading now. At 200Mb, it's beefy. We'll see if it does the trick. -roy From rsr at inorganic.org Thu Mar 24 01:30:35 2005 From: rsr at inorganic.org (Roy S. Rapoport) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:30:35 -0800 Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: <20050324080814.54444.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050324080814.54444.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050324093035.GB9115@puppy.inorganic.org> On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 12:08:13AM -0800, Dan Bethe wrote: > Yeah that's probably best and the most gratis/libre. Otherwise there's > Services for Unix (http://microsoft.com/sfu) which won an award at Linuxworld > Expo. :-/ Boy, I feel sort of dirty for saying this, but SFU was the third app I tried tonight. It's good. -roy From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Mar 24 08:58:40 2005 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 08:58:40 -0800 Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: <20050324072524.GA2239@puppy.inorganic.org> References: <20050324072524.GA2239@puppy.inorganic.org> Message-ID: <20050324165840.GQ27314@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Roy S. Rapoport (rsr at inorganic.org): > I've got a work need to get one of our Windows boxes (W2K3) to access some > NFS shares. Anyone have an NFS client for Windows to recommend? Cost would > ideally be low, but quality is more important. "Samba, Samba, he's our man! If he can't do it, no one can." But, if you're determined to do it with NFS, look here: "NFS" on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Legacy_Microsoft/ -- Cheers, I once successfully declined a departmental retreat, Rick Moen saying that on that day I planned instead to advance. rick at linuxmafia.com -- Alan J. Rosenthal, in the Monastery From strata at virtual.net Thu Mar 24 09:10:58 2005 From: strata at virtual.net (Strata R. Chalup) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:10:58 -0800 Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: <20050324093035.GB9115@puppy.inorganic.org> References: <20050324080814.54444.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com> <20050324093035.GB9115@puppy.inorganic.org> Message-ID: <4242F4A2.60601@virtual.net> SFU has worked for me in the past. Cygwin supposedly has an NFS client as well. SRC Roy S. Rapoport wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 12:08:13AM -0800, Dan Bethe wrote: > >>Yeah that's probably best and the most gratis/libre. Otherwise there's >>Services for Unix (http://microsoft.com/sfu) which won an award at Linuxworld >>Expo. :-/ > > > Boy, I feel sort of dirty for saying this, but SFU was the third app I > tried tonight. It's good. > > -roy > -- ======================================================================== Strata Rose Chalup [KF6NBZ] strata "@" virtual.net VirtualNet Consulting http://www.virtual.net/ ** Project Management & Architecture for ISP/ASP Systems Integration ** ========================================================================= From rsr at inorganic.org Thu Mar 24 09:30:58 2005 From: rsr at inorganic.org (Roy S. Rapoport) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 09:30:58 -0800 Subject: NFS Clients for Windows? In-Reply-To: <4242F4A2.60601@virtual.net> References: <20050324080814.54444.qmail@web51704.mail.yahoo.com> <20050324093035.GB9115@puppy.inorganic.org> <4242F4A2.60601@virtual.net> Message-ID: <20050324173058.GA4579@puppy.inorganic.org> On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 09:10:58AM -0800, Strata R. Chalup wrote: > SFU has worked for me in the past. SFU rocked (well, would have rocked if it wasn't released by Vader). It's good enough to get us going, certainly. > Cygwin supposedly has an NFS client as well. I tried that first, since this machine already had cygwin. Couldn't find it. 'mount' existed, but only dealt with local partitions. -roy