From extasia at extasia.org Mon Jul 4 17:30:19 2005 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:30:19 -0700 Subject: [baylisa] [sig-beer-west] Saturday 7/09 at 18:00 in San Francisco Message-ID: <20050705003019.GA4301@gerasimov.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 sig-beer-west[1] Saturday, July 09, 2005 at 18:00[2] San Francisco Bay area Beer. Mental stimulation. Please note that SBW events are moving to the second Saturday of each month beginning July 2005. [1] http://extasia.org/sig-beer-west/ [2] http://www.spacearchive.info/military.htm This event: * Saturday, 7/09/2005, 18:00, at The Crow Bar[3], San Francisco (North Beach) [3] http://tinyurl.com/8dzne Coming events (second Saturdays): * Saturday, 08/13/2005, 18:00, Jupiter, Berkeley * Saturday, 09/10/2005, 18:00, location to be determined * Saturday, 10/08/2004, 18:00, location to be determined The San Francisco Bay area's next social event for techies and their friends, sig-beer-west, will take place at 18:00 on Saturday, July 09, 2005 at The Crow Bar, 401 Broadway, San Francisco. Phone: 415-788-2769. Map: http://tinyurl.com/73vlm The Crow Bar on the web: Citysearch - Giancarlo Davis[4] North Beach's token black sheep plays host to rock-and-rollers, bikers and other roustabouts looking to avoid trendy cocktail lounges. Editorial Rating: Recommended The Scene: Crow Bar is dark, a bit dingy and hardly self-conscious. Barflies here would rather sit around listening to the Descendants, Kiss or the Clash than succumb to boogie fever at one of the various neighboring dance clubs. If the bar's too full (usually on weekends), challenge any of the rugged denizens to a game of pool in the back. The Draw: Those who swill beer, bourbon or any beverage beginning with the word "Glen" will find the extensive drink menu delightful. The friendly bartenders are willing to share their extensive knowledge of various Scotch and Irish potables, and are even happier to get you drunk on the stuff. The jukebox is first rate. Know Before You Go: This cash-only bar has an in-house ATM machine. ::un.official.guide::[5] Crow Bar is most accurately described as a biker bar that attempts to fend off the North Beach yuppies. Still, you will like the pool tables and abundance of seats. SF Gate - Josh Wilson [6] Located at the perplexing intersection between North Beach's legacy of jazz and poetry and its present reality of fine dining and strip clubs, the Crow Bar is a real oasis, combining a casual demeanor with just the right amount of grunge and exotica. Just what you'd expect from a good neighborhood bar that's right around the corner from both Vesuvio's and the Lusty Lady. Numerous tables make it a fine spot for huddling with pals, with two pool tables and a very rockin' jukebox to round things out. San Francisco Bay Guardian - Marke B.[7] Friendly and down-to-earth, the Crow Bar offers young, no-frills locals a safe haven from the stuffy North Beach fine-dining scene as well as the flashing lights of the bar's Broadway strip-club neighbors. The lighting is dim, the prices are reasonable, and it's worth visiting solely for the amazing selection of punk rock on the jukebox. There are plenty of tables to hang out at and plenty of people congregating around the pool tables. Meanwhile, the lone air hockey table overlooks the whole bar from an elevated platform, its blue surface glimmering beneath the giant crow outlined on the wall. The crow is the new symbol for the air hockey revolution. Everyone is welcome at this event. We mean it! Please feel free to forward this information and to invite friends, cow-orkers[8], and others (of legal drinking age) who might enjoy lifting a glass with interesting folks from all over the place. Can't come this month? Mark your calendar for next month. (Do it now before you forget!) sig-beer-west occurs on the second Saturday of each month. Want to suggest a venue? Suggestions for new places to sip and gab are always welcome. Have questions, comments, or other ideas concerning sig-beer-west? Send all correspondence to the current sig-beer-west Instigator. The Instigator's handle is extasia. The Instigator's email address is <*the handle*> at <*the handle*> dot <*org*>. A subject beginning with "sbw: " will increase the chances that the Instigator's spam filters don't block your message. [4] http://sanfrancisco.citysearch.com/profile/917792/san_francisco_ca/crow_bar.html [5] http://techdev.stanford.edu:8080/unofficial/town.html [6] http://sfgate.com/eguide/music/barguide/neighborhood.shtml [7] http://www.sfbg.com/39/10/cover_bars_new_clubs_list.html [8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow-orker sig-beer-west FAQ 1. Q: Your announcement says "techies and their friends". How do I know if I'm a techie, or a friend of one? A: Well, actually, you don't have to be a techie to attend. You just have to be able to find the sig-beer-west sign at this month's event. That's it. Simple, huh? 2. Q: I'm not really a beer person. In fact I'm interested in hanging out, but not in drinking. Would I be welcome? A: Absolutely! The point is to hang out with fun, interesting folks. Please do join us. 3. Q: I've been thinking about attending sig-beer-west for some time now. Maybe I should start with this event? A: Yes!! ______________________________________________________________________ sig-beer-west was started in February 2002 when a couple Washington, D.C. based systems administrators who moved to the San Francisco Bay area wanted to continue a dc-sage tradition[9], SIG-beer, which is described in sig-beer.NET[10] web space as: SIG-beer, n., origin lost to intoxication: 1. Special Interest Group - Beer! 2. An Interprocessor Communications (IPC) signal that should be implemented in every O/S kernel. Semantics are left to the hardware driver for the Robotic Drinks Server. Expected behavior is that kill -beer 3. A standing monthly gathering of systems administrators, past/present/future, and their ilk in Washington, DC. and other worldwide locations. These gathering consists of a friendly gathering of people who enjoy tasting/drinking interesting beer and chatting about computers, life, and how to implement the SIG-beer into their systems. It started with a group of dc.sage[11] sysadmins some time in 1997. [9] http://www.dc-sage.org/ [10] http://www.sig-beer.net/ [11] http://www.dc-sage.org/ ______________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCyc8xPh0M9c/OpdARAmkyAJ944HlDI3v69WCjikMZSCGep1+tvQCeKHSQ 0F1gHNC/rx1VYgzxKngPjhw= =k4kD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cooper.simmons at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 5 14:54:33 2005 From: cooper.simmons at sbcglobal.net (Cooper Simmons) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 14:54:33 -0700 Subject: *nix education & certification questions Message-ID: Hello. I wanted to send this to the baylisa list instead of the baylisa-jobs-chat list because it is directed more at educating myself in the sysadmin field, not just a job issue. And you are definitely the group to know, or at least have opinions on this... ;-) I have a question about local *nix systems administration certification programs. I am a fairly recent transplant to the Bay Area and have been spending more and more time with Linux/Unix. I would like to move into a career as a Linux and/or Unix System Administrator. I have quite a bit of experience in first and second level support (mainly in Windows and Mac environments) and some sys admin experience (mainly, however, in Point of Sale environment using Unix). I use Debian at home as a Web/SAMBA server and like it a lot. I have taken a couple of Unix classes at Foothill Community College and found them to be too introductory (though I highly recommend the Cisco certification courses, if you're interested). I have quit my current job to commit the next year to my education in *nix. My plan is to spend time in classes that will be good learning environments to prepare me for my career change. I will also be going to conferences (LinuxWorld in August and LISA in December). I like learning hands-on in a collaborative environment (whether it be classes at a college, "boot camp" or intensive programs, or even internships). Money is not a huge issue but I do want a good value. My questions are these: 1) What would be the best certification path(s)? Do you think something like a Solaris Sys Admin cert program or a Red Hat cert program would be best? Or something more generic (CompTIA, SAIR, LPI?)? Granted, I would rather LEARN the OS IN AND OUT, not just have some highly-regarded piece of paper. 2) Would anyone like to recommend a specific training program in the Bay Area from which you have seen good training and teaching...and maybe even a good lab? Please let me know if you need any more specifics. Thanks for your input, Cooper From eric at deadhookers.org Tue Jul 5 16:32:20 2005 From: eric at deadhookers.org (Eric Wagar) Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:32:20 -0700 Subject: *nix education & certification questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1120606340.18407.237821089@webmail.messagingengine.com> > 1) What would be the best certification path(s)? Do you think something > like > a Solaris Sys Admin cert program or a Red Hat cert program would be best? > Or > something more generic (CompTIA, SAIR, LPI?)? Granted, I would rather > LEARN > the OS IN AND OUT, not just have some highly-regarded piece of paper. My *personal* experience has been with the RedHat RHC* series. I am hoping to take mine sometime this year. (Hoping because it will be on my own dime and with my own vacation time.) >From what I have seen and read for the RHC* series, the tests are all hands-on practical tests. (Same as the Cisco tests.) I am a Sun Solaris 7 certified admin. When the day comes that it has been of use to me, I will let you know! :) (It was all book knowledge, nothing real world.) I also have three highly skilled and knowledgeable co-workers who took the Redhat RHCE Bootcamp (the company paid) and they did not get the T or the E cert. So, that tells me that I must study and then absorb *everything* in the classes I will be taking. Out of the Sun or RH cert, I'd take someone who had the RH cert. eric From jimd at starshine.org Tue Jul 5 20:03:45 2005 From: jimd at starshine.org (Jim Dennis) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:03:45 -0700 Subject: *nix education & certification questions In-Reply-To: <1120606340.18407.237821089@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1120606340.18407.237821089@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20050706030344.GA5579@starshine.org> On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 04:32:20PM -0700, Eric Wagar wrote: >> 1) What would be the best certification path(s)? Do you think something >> like a Solaris Sys Admin cert program or a Red Hat cert program would >> be best? >> Or something more generic (CompTIA, SAIR, LPI?)? Granted, I would rather >> LEARN the OS IN AND OUT, not just have some highly-regarded piece of paper. > My *personal* experience has been with the RedHat RHC* series. I am > hoping to take mine sometime this year. (Hoping because it will be on > my own dime and with my own vacation time.) > From what I have seen and read for the RHC* series, the tests are all > hands-on practical tests. (Same as the Cisco tests.) I am a Sun > Solaris 7 certified admin. When the day comes that it has been of use > to me, I will let you know! :) (It was all book knowledge, nothing > real world.) > I also have three highly skilled and knowledgeable co-workers who took > the Redhat RHCE Bootcamp (the company paid) and they did not get the T > or the E cert. So, that tells me that I must study and then absorb > *everything* in the classes I will be taking. > Out of the Sun or RH cert, I'd take someone who had the RH cert. > eric My comments: CompTIA Linux+ and related tests: Not worth the paper they're printed on Sair: Are they *still around*? (Yes, I know they are, but I'm still incredulous). LPIC: Their heart is in the right place; but I don't think any employers will notice this on your resume Novell SCLP (S.u.S.E. Certified Linux Professional): This shows some promise but it's too early to tell. RHCE: As you say, this is all hands on. I haven't taken this test yet, but I've had several students in my own (in-house) sysadmin classes who have attained RHCEs and my experience was that they were among my most knowlegeable students. (They consistenly assure me that I will pass these with ease, given what they could see of my knowlege and skills from taking 5 days of my classes). Sun Certified Solaris: I've never had anyone express any interest in this. The lack of this seems to have no effect on my resume --- but I am known primarily as a Linux guru; so any Solaris knowlege that leaks over is just gravy for the people interested in me. A co-worker of mine just took the RH bootcamp and test last week. I suspect that he'll tell me how it went next week and I'll be talking to my manager to see if they want me to take the class or just challenge the test. (Class+test: ~$3500, just the test: ~$800). Since they've had me teaching a whole serious of in-house classes in the hopes that many of my students would attain at least the RHCT the main benefit of running me through the class would be for me to observe the teaching style and ensure that I'm not missing anything major in my own courseware. My advice: Run Linux at home. Get it running on at least two machines (client and server). Configure one of the systems to be a kickstart server (installing and configuing DHCP, tftpd and httpd daemons, an NFS export, and DNS (with forward and reverse zones). Make it a router and keep the client system on a separate segment "inside" the server/router. Tear apart a copy of the initrd (initial RAM disk) and read the /linuxrc you find therein. Read the nash man page. Start at the top of your /etc/inittab: for every line run the file command on the command in the third field. If it's a binary, read the man page; if it's a script, read it. For every line in the rc.sysinit (and other start-up scripts) follow the same procedure. Run multiple kickstarts from CD, floppy, and over PXE. Customize your kickstarts to run over NFS and HTTP, and write as much as you can into post installation and post upgrade scripts. Install different versions. Add the useradd commands to your kickstart to preserve your account info (include the -p to preserve your password hash). Set the system up with GRUB passwords, MD5 encoded and in the kickstart. So the same for LILO. Configure inittab to run sulogin in single-user mode. Convert the client from using DHCP to static IPs. Figure out how to bind the client's MAC address to a specific kickstart configuration. Figure out how to have your client restore its static addressing information during a kickstart post-install. Peform an absolutely minimal installation. Then try to install all of the packages necessary to get X and GNOME running properly. (Learn how to deal with RPM dependency hell). Configure the server to do masquerading. Add squid. Configure it to run squid as a transparent proxy, *and* to allow access to its own local httpd as well. Configure the server to be a NIS master. Configure the client to be a NIS client. Then convert them to both use LDAP. Configure autofs on the client. Configure the server to provide mail services using sendmail and whatever POP and IMAP servers come with your copy of RH. Configure fetchmail on the client. Install a webmail package on the server. Access it with the client. Change video cards, add memory and add a disk drive to the client. Reconfigure the X, add a filesystems and mount points for the drive. (Notice that the additional memory generally needs no special configuration). Reconfigure the client system to use LVM. Add the other drive as a PV to your VG. Resize some of your partitions. Figure out how to remove one PV from your VG while preserving all the data. Learn how to access the VG from a generic rescue disc (like Ubuntu's live CD). Re-install the client using soft-RAID; use mirroring on the rootfs and RAID 5 for /home. (Yes, get a small stack of cheap drives for this. I'd recommand about 6 of them and you'll probably need an extra controller as well --- getting experience with SCSI, and USB storage is good). Pull cables on different drives (with the system off) and power it back up. Learn how to configure the system to boot off either mirror (CMOS settings *and* bootloader using both GRUB and LILO). Learn how to restore the RAID sets (blank the drive you pulled . Pick out some of the .src RPMs. Install and rebuild them. Make minor packaging changes (for example build a custom version of the screen RPM that makes the screen binary setUID root and associated with some local "screen" group --- but not world executable; add the necessary groupadd command to the pre-install and the removal to the post install). Be sure this rebuilt RPM has a distinctive name like: foo-1.2.3-MINE4.i486.rpm Write your own RPM from scratch. Create a simple "service" that just does "logger hello world" in your rc scripts and a simple cron job that calls it periodically; build the RPM around that script and have the post-install do the necessary chkconfig --add and service commands. Be sure that the pre-remove does the necessary chkconfig --del and service stop commands. To learn RHEL3 and RHEL4 consider playing with the community rebuilds of the same sources: CentOS: http://www.centos.org/ Fetch CentOS3 and CentOS3.5 and CentOS4 and CentOS4.1. Practice installing and upgrading; including kickstarts into 3.0 with post-install upgrades up to 3.5 (RHEL3 update 5) and so on. Burn your own CDs and DVDs. Figure how to loop mount the .iso images that you download from centos.org and how to export those over NFS. Install and run Bastille (http://bastille-linux.org/ ). It will ask you all sorts of questions about how you want to use the system with all sorts of advice on securing it. It will then use your responses to lock down the system. Now tear apart every change it made and figure out how it worked and why each of those changes was made. Figure out how to save and apply a Bastille policy as part of a kickstart post installation. Have a friend change your root password. Break in and fix it. Configure your kickstart server to also serve "rescue" images for both RHEL4 and RHEL3 (to PXE boots). Have a friend break something else (give him or her a long list of possibilities: netmask, default route, hostname, nsswitch.conf, /etc/pam.d configuration files, /etc/fstab, grub.conf or lilo.conf, filesystem labels, ...). Diagnose and fix each of these in turn. Learn how to use rpm -qf and rpm -V effectively! In other words my advice is to set up your own lab (two or three cheap systems; the server can even be headless --- configure it for serial console and use a null modem cable). Set up your own little self-study group (with one or a few others who are also interested in pursuing an RHCE). Find creative ways to break the system for your partners to diagnose and repair and have them return the favor. (Search google and the newsgroups for problems that you can reproduce in your lab). Sorry I'm not available to teach external classes at this time. However, many of these are exactly the sorts of things I do in my classes. (Unfortunately 5 days isn't long enough for most of these and I have about 25 hours of lecture materials to get through, too). -- Jim Dennis From extasia at gmail.com Tue Jul 5 20:50:27 2005 From: extasia at gmail.com (David Alban) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:50:27 -0700 Subject: [baylisa] *nix education & certification questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4c714a9c050705205074703158@mail.gmail.com> How about finding a company that has the kind of work you'd like to learn. Tell them you're interested in getting a year's worth of education from them and in exchange you'll give them an intelligent and talented full time worker at a price they can't beat. Offer to hire on with them as a full time employee for a dollar a year salary plus full benefits if they'll put you in a position where you can learn, hands on, on the job, the type of work you want to do. After a year or so, maybe you'll have learned a bunch. Maybe it will have been a great place to work. Maybe they'll give you a raise more in keeping with industry standards. At the least, you'll have met some folks and be closer to a "real" position in the field. David -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. From kathryntate at comcast.net Tue Jul 5 22:10:02 2005 From: kathryntate at comcast.net (Kathryn Tate) Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 22:10:02 -0700 Subject: certification... Message-ID: I don't know if my reply email went out so I am sending this. City College of San Francisco has a Unix/Linux System Administration certification program that is excellent. I just completed mine this last May. It's a good school. http://www.ccsf.edu Kathryn From pmui at usenix.org Wed Jul 6 07:16:10 2005 From: pmui at usenix.org (Peter Mui) Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 07:16:10 -0700 Subject: USENIX Security Symposium, July 31, Baltimore, Maryland Message-ID: <92242a7832b0764a6fbff97259366866@usenix.org> (Hi, the Early-Bird registration ends Monday, (July 11), so people should register soon for the best deal. Also, if five people register together they get $100 off each. -Peter) (cut here) ================================================= (EARLY BIRD REGISTRATION ENDS July 11 -- Register Now!!) Register for the 14th USENIX Security Symposium July 31-August 5, 2005, Baltimore, MD It happens here first: join us for the latest advances in computer system security. As with previous security symposiums, the breadth and quality of this year'stutorials, refereed papers, invited talks, and participants is excellent. For the entire program and to register, visit http://www.usenix.org/sec05/progm Highlights of this year's program include: Expanded TRAINING: working experts give you the information, techniques, tools, and strategies you need to practice effective security tomorrow: o NEW! - Tina Bird: VPN Changes and Secure Remote Access o NEW! - Richard Bejtlich: Responding to Network Incidents o NEW! - Rik Farrow: Thinking Like a Hacker o NEW! - Gary McGraw: Building Security Into Software o NEW! - Tina Bird: Endpoint Enforcement & Network Access Control o NEW! - Sven Dietrich and David Dittrich: DDoS for Fun and Profit o NEW! - Ron Dodge and Dan Ragsdale: Organizing a Cybersecurity Exercise o NEW! - Peter Baer Galvin: Solaris 10 Security o NEW! - Brad C. Johnson and Richard E. Mackey, Jr.: Understanding Security Standards o Richard Bejtlich: Network Security Monitoring with Open Source Tools o Marcus Ranum: System Log Aggregation, Statistics, and Analysis PAPERS and INVITED TALKS: luminaries such as Avi Rubin, Ben Schneiderman, Vern Paxson, and Neils Provos will present cutting-edge issues in topics such as: o Homeland Security: networking, security, and policy o the current state of electronic voting o detecting targeted attacks using shadow honeypots o finding serious bugs in real code o finding security vulnerabilities in java applications o cryptographically-enabled RFID Birds-of-a-Feather sessions and Work-in-Progress reports give you a preview of next year's news, or present fledgling work of your own and get feedback from the audience. 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Hitachi Superscan 814 and Superscan pro 800 Thanks Nicole -- ******* |\ __ /| (`\ ******* * * | o_o |__ ) ) * * * * // \\ * * * Blessed Be! | Powered by FreeBSD * ----------------------(((---(((-------------------------------- http://www.unixgirl.com - http://www.deviantimages.com http://www.myspace.com/theparts Why do all the closed minds have open mouths? -- Sister MaryMae Himm The Large Print Giveth And The Small Print Taketh Away -- Anon Support Your Local Chinese Communist Country Shop At Walmart -- Me From sigje at sigje.org Fri Jul 8 11:28:06 2005 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 11:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Upcoming USENIX events and Linux Picnic Message-ID: For all you security folks out there, I wanted to remind you about the upcoming Early Bird Deadline! The conference is in Maryland at the end of the month. 14th USENIX Security Symposium July 31-August 5, 2005 Baltimore, MD http://www.usenix.org/sec05/progc Early Bird Registration Deadline: July 11, 2005 If you have an interest in security, I'd highly recommend the USENIX Security conference. I attended the one in 2002 in San Francisco and it was well worth it. LISA will be in San Diego this year! December 4-9 http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa05/ The schedule isn't up yet, but it's never too early to start planning the trip. Don't forget - August 14 Linux Picnic http://www.linuxpicnic.org/ from 11am-4pm. Free food, fun, and socializing! BayLISA is a sponsor AND participating organization. If you want to help out, please do volunteer! http://www.linuxpicnic.org/volunteer/. Don't forget to RSVP if you plan to come! From sigje at sigje.org Thu Jul 14 13:51:51 2005 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: BayLISA General Meeting - July 21, 2005 - Radia Perlman Message-ID: Date: Thursday, July 21, 2005 Where: Apple Campus, Building 4, upstairs meeting room (named Garage 1) http://www.baylisa.org/locations/current.shtml Free and Open to the General Public! 7:30 pm Introductions and announcements 7:45 pm Formal Presentation 9:45 pm After-meeting dinner/social outing (BJ's, next door) Radia Perlman from Sun, will be presenting "Myths, Missteps, and Folklore in Network Protocols". _______________________________________________ baylisa mailing list: baylisa at baylisa.org rsvp for meeting: rsvp at baylisa.org baylisa board (request to sponsor or present): blw at baylisa.org From sigje at sigje.org Thu Jul 21 10:45:00 2005 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: BayLISA General Meeting TONIGHT! Message-ID: It's the third Thursday again, and I'm looking forward to what looks like an incredible presentation from Radia Perlman on "Myths, Missteps, and Folklore in Network Protocols". Radia will also be talking about some of her current research in networking at Sun. Radia is a frequent speaker at USENIX conferences among her many activities, and from the presentation slides (that will be made available after the meeting tonight on the website), it is easy to see why. Tonight's talk will be very interesting, and I highly encourage you to be there. Our camera is still broken (we are investigating options on replacing it), so we can't offer the ability to watch it afterwards. ( If anyone has the equipment to record tonight's meeting that would be very helpful! ) So don't miss the opportunity to see Radia live! Also, RSVP system is UP for the 14th Annual Linux Picnic. You must sign up to get your free tshirt, and food! http://www.linuxpicnic.org/rsvp/ Come munch on Krispy Kreme (mmmmm), and socialize with your sys admin peers tonight! As always, BayLISA general meetings are open and free to the general public. Date: Thursday, July 21, 2005 Where: Apple Campus, Building 4, upstairs meeting room (named Garage 1) http://www.baylisa.org/locations/current.shtml Free and Open to the General Public! 7:30 pm Introductions and announcements 7:45 pm Formal Presentation 9:45 pm After-meeting dinner/social outing (BJ's, next door) Radia Perlman from Sun, will be presenting "Myths, Missteps, and Folklore in Network Protocols". From sigje at sigje.org Thu Jul 21 14:53:30 2005 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: One more Decru Job.. Security Analyst Message-ID: Decru as mentioned before is hiring - http://www.decru.com/company/careers.htm I'll be updating the website with these shortly, but email me if you are interested or better yet chat to me _AFTER_ the general meeting this evening. Security Analyst RESPONSIBILITIES: .Code auditing/code review, to detect security flaws, state machine flaws, and design flaws .Security documentation, including state model documents, security policy model documents, threat models, and other documents for security certifications .Development and maintenance of penetration tests, including fuzz tests, configuration checks, and ad hoc tests REQUIREMENTS: .B.S. Computer Science degree .Possess a love and passion for security .A background in software development highly preferred .Knowledge of cryptography and network protocols (CIFS, NFS, SCSI, iSCSI, FTP/TFTP, Kerberos, IPsec, SSL) From alvin at Mail.Linux-Consulting.com Sat Jul 23 22:32:10 2005 From: alvin at Mail.Linux-Consulting.com (Alvin Oga) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: server room: AC cooling requirements Message-ID: hi ya - its a hot day... so i went poking around .. http://www.ITX-Blades.net/BTU/ - how many BTU is needed to coool a server room ?? # http://home.howstuffworks.com/ac4.htm # BTU is the amount of heat required to raise the # temperature of one pound (0.45 kg) of water # 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.56 degrees Celsius). - AC ( air conditioners ) is measured in tons ... :-) One ton of air conditioning is equal to 12,000 BTU - 1 BTU equals 1,055 joules - rough guestimates ... BTU/hr cooling = ( ((Amps * Volts) * 0.8) / 1000) * 3413 Rough AC Tonnage = BTUs per hour/12000 - another estimate was 30BTU per sq ft, but i think that'd be for cooling a bedroom or living room sorta thing where you're ( 500 BTU ) the only heat source and sunshine c ya alvin From bill at thecrookes.com Mon Jul 25 09:15:13 2005 From: bill at thecrookes.com (Bill Crooke) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:15:13 -0700 Subject: Peninsula Linux Users' Group Meeting, Thursday, July 28th, 2005 Message-ID: <42E51011.6080203@thecrookes.com> Peninsula Linux Users' Group, Thursday, July 28, 2005 We have a meeting of the Peninsula Linux Users' Group (PenLUG) this week! Here are the details about the next meeting. For more information or directions go to http://www.penlug.org/ Our website is a TWiki; please feel free to create a user account and modify the website if you have something to contribute. Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2005 Time: 7:00 - 9:00 PM Location: 100 Oracle Parkway, Redwood Shores, CA 94065 Room 104 Agenda: ======= 7:00 - 8:30 PM: Presentation by Simon Crosby: "Enterprise Grade Virtualization with Open Source Technologies" 8:30 - 9:00 PM: Members' Minutes 8:45 - 9:00 PM: Adjourn to IHOP (Belmont) for social & food time Presentation by Simon Crosby: "Enterprise Grade Virtualization with Open Source Technologies" ====================================================================== Open Source operating systems like Linux offer the potential to make virtualization fast, easy and a commodity by introducing the required changes into the OS as part of the standard kernel. Fast virtualization with a low overhead, furthermore makes it possible for the first time to use it in production environments (rather than just test and development). Xen, the leading Open Source virtualization technology has quickly become a standard adopted by many leading ISVs to build comprehensive data center efficiency and management solutions. This session will provide an overview of Xen and discuss best practices for deploying it to achieve enterprise grade virtualization. Simon Crosby is the VP of Technology Strategy at XenSource and joined XenSource from Intel, where he was a Principal Engineer leading strategic research in distributed autonomic computing, platform security and trust. Previously Simon founded CPlane Inc., a network optimization software vendor. At CPlane Simon held the roles of President & CEO, Chairman, CTO and Chief Strategy Officer. Prior to CPlane Simon was a tenured faculty member at Cambridge University, UK, where he led research network performance and control and multimedia operating systems. He is author of over 35 research papers and patents. Members' Minutes ================ Members will have an opportunity to take a few minutes to... * Describe their latest Linux discovery * Ask questions and get help from other members * Discuss Linux projects You can just stand up and talk, or give a short demo or presentation. If you need audio/visual support for your Members' Minute, please contact me in advance to arrange for your needs. We have a limited number of books courtesy of Prentice-Hall and O'Reilly to give away as an added inducement to participate in this portion of the meeting. :-) RSVP ==== Although it is NOT required, we like to have an idea of how many people to expect, so if possible please email rsvp at penlug.org if you are planning to attend. Bill Crooke PenLUG Speaker Coordinator From sigje at sigje.org Tue Jul 26 09:35:25 2005 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Silicon Valley OpenSolaris User Group Meeting, Today! Message-ID: Hey Folks, I'm posting this for Alan DuBoff, to give you all the heads up about the OpenSolaris User Group meeting today. Where: Sun Menlo Park Campus, building 17 - In the Van Ness Conference room When: Tuesday, July 26 Time: 7:30pm-10:00pm Mike Shapiro - Fault Management Architecture Sun Menlo Park Campus is located at the west end of the Dumbarton Bridge (84) in Silicon Valley, on the Menlo Park side of the bridge. If you take Highway 101 to Willow Road, and head east to the Dumbarton Bridge, The Sun headquarter can be entered by driving straight ahead from Willow Road rather than turning onto 84. Turn right as you enter the Campus, and you will follow the road to Building 17. Alan DuBoff will be there to assist people in getting inside, and it would help if you send an RSVP to Alan.DuBoff (at) Sun (dot) com, so that he can enter you into the system. From sigje at sigje.org Thu Jul 28 10:02:42 2005 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Salary Survey for Sysadmins! Message-ID: If you haven't taken the SAGE Salary Survey yet: http://www.sage.org/salsur Jennifer From sigje at sigje.org Fri Jul 29 10:45:29 2005 From: sigje at sigje.org (Jennifer Davis) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Book Review Message-ID: Following on from Radia's excellent talk in July, BayLISA has acquired the Second Edition Network Security Private Communication in a Public World book that she was an author (with Charlie Kaufman, and Mike Speciner) from our sponsors Addison Wesley/PH PTR. If you are interested in reviewing this book, please let me know. The guidelines for book reviews are here: http://www.baylisa.org/library/review.shtml From michael at halligan.org Fri Jul 29 12:07:27 2005 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:07:27 -0700 Subject: Is anybody in need of 400GB drives? Message-ID: <42EA7E6F.9040302@halligan.org> I need to buy a dozen or so drives for a project I'm working on, and am finding that the pricing breaks really start in blocks of 20 or 40. If anybody would be interested in this, so far I've been able to find Seagate 400gb drives at web pricing for about $270 per drive, and am waiting for a quote back from my wholesaler to see if they can do better. Michael -- ------------------- BitPusher, LLC http://www.bitpusher.com/ 1.888.9PUSHER (415) 724.7998 - Mobile From michael at halligan.org Fri Jul 29 13:15:11 2005 From: michael at halligan.org (Michael T. Halligan) Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:15:11 -0700 Subject: Is anybody in need of 400GB drives? In-Reply-To: <42EA7E6F.9040302@halligan.org> References: <42EA7E6F.9040302@halligan.org> Message-ID: <42EA8E4F.40703@halligan.org> To answer some of the questions I've gotten since posting this : - I'm looking at SATA drives. - So far, the best pricing I've found in quantity is $226 - This is really only going to be interesting for somebody looking to purchase a few drives. If you want to buy one drive at a good price, and you don't mind playing around with rebates, than fatwallet.com & staples will probably give you better than this.. If anybody is in the middle of a server project and is looking for a few drives, then this will become more appealing. Michael Michael T. Halligan wrote: > I need to buy a dozen or so drives for a project I'm working on, and > am finding that the pricing breaks really start > in blocks of 20 or 40. If anybody would be interested in this, so far > I've been able to find Seagate 400gb drives > at web pricing for about $270 per drive, and am waiting for a quote > back from my wholesaler to see if they can > do better. > > Michael > -- ------------------- BitPusher, LLC http://www.bitpusher.com/ 1.888.9PUSHER (415) 724.7998 - Mobile