From extasia at extasia.org Tue Mar 4 19:36:54 2003 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:36:54 -0800 Subject: Shiny new drive Message-ID: <20030304193654.S25091@gerasimov.net> Re: my thread asking about places with good laptop drive selection. FYI. I ended up getting a shiny new IBM^wHitachi Travelstar 40 GB 5400 rpm drive from thenerds.net for $ 141.00 plus shipping. Up side: I got exactly what I wanted. And (unlike *lots* of other vendors) they had them in stock. The price was right. The drive is installed and working wonderfully. [knock on wood] Down side: They took two days to process the order before they shipped it. When I tried to find out about my order, the website showed no information on it whatsoever (this was during the two days it took to process the order). When I called their 800 number, I stayed on hold, waiting for a human (after punching the right buttons) for forty five minutes and finally gave up. Up side: I emailed them about it and later got a voice mail message that was helpful. Overall, I'm happy with thenerds.net, but I can't understand in this economy how keeping someone on hold for forty five minutes doesn't equate to business death. David -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. *** Come to sig-beer-west! http://www.extasia.org/sig-beer-west/ Unix sysadmin available: http://www.extasia.org/resume/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alvin at maggie.linux-consulting.com Tue Mar 4 20:21:11 2003 From: alvin at maggie.linux-consulting.com (alvin at maggie.linux-consulting.com) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:21:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Shiny new drive In-Reply-To: <20030304193654.S25091@gerasimov.net> Message-ID: hi ya david On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, David Alban wrote: > Re: my thread asking about places with good laptop drive selection. > > FYI. > > I ended up getting a shiny new IBM^wHitachi Travelstar 40 GB 5400 rpm > drive from thenerds.net for $ 141.00 plus shipping. not too shabby.... centralcomputer has it listed at $139 ( plus tax... ouch ... but it'd be same day or next for delivery ) and if you need parts in 2-3hrs... get a reseller permit and no prob getting parts in 2 hrs if the distributors have it in stock ( distributor --> requires reseller permit more online webstores http://www.Linux-1U.net/Disks/Laptop/ specifically laptop drives webstores... bet ya diddnt know so many pc stores in silicon valley existed on the web ?? http://www.Linux-1U.net/WebStores/ and if you need 44pin to 40pin ide adaptors... thats harder to find ( but central has um ... and actioncomputer too ) c ya alvin if they put you on hold for 45min ... they lost $$$ - i would have hung up and cancelled the order :-) but than again i go chasing the ups/fedex trucks when they dont deliver the packages on time .. :-) From robc at solarflares.net Thu Mar 6 17:09:56 2003 From: robc at solarflares.net (Rob Cambra) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:09:56 -0800 Subject: Old PC Hardware, for free! Message-ID: <3E67F164.8080502@solarflares.net> Unless of course you see real value in this stuff, and want to give me something for storing and moving it all these years for you... Would prefer that one person take it all, we are moving sometime next week, so I need to deal with this stuff immediately. The catch is: you have to pick it up in SF, Upper Market/Twin Peaks. I think it all works, but I am not sure about that. (1) Arcnet Hub, CNet Technology, Model: CN008AH, 8 BNC connectors, two 6-conductor RJ jacks labelled "Stack Port" (1) "Print server", Castelle LANpress, Model No. field is blank. This thing has 2 Parallel ports, 2 Serial ports, and one BNC (assuming ether and not arcnet) port, yes, there is an AUI port as well. Castelle was apparently based in Santa Clara, so maybe someone on the list knows how to make this thing work. I never tried, I just tore it out in doing a small office network upgrade for a client about 5 years and moved it around with me since. (1) HP DeskJet 500, rarely used, worked fine last time we tried, needs new cartridge. (3) 5.25" floppy drives, 2 are original PC AT (1/2 height) drives, the other is TEAC branded (related link: http://www.cloud9tech.com/Hardware/Teac55B.html --people are still selling these drives??) (4) 3.5" external SCSI cases with power supply, 2 have 50-pin D-sub connectors with internal ribbon cable, 2 do not. All power up, no idea how good the power is. (1) PC XT/AT Power supply, don't recall whether it came out of an XT or AT, but is a standard AT desktop style power supply 5/12v, two mainboard connectors, and two accessory connectors. Works great as a reliable source of up 4amp's of 5v or 2amps of 12v, which is what I have used it for, never actually had it in a computer since I have had it. Model no.: AA12156 IBM p/n: 6323357. (2) 32mb 72-oin EDO SIMMS (have compaq stickers on them) (4) 30-pin SIMMS, no idea what capacity (2) 72-pin SIMMS, no idea what type/capacity, sticker on each says: Samsung KMM5322004CV-6 and KOREA 9629H, the chips (16 on each SIMM) are SEC 625Y KM44C1004CJ-6 (1) 14.4 internal ISA modem, generic (1) Diamond Speedstar 24X video card. (1) very heavy full size tower case, 300w AT power supply, with a few 540-1gb SCSI drives installed, AMD 5x86 and PCI MB, 20mb RAM installed. No SCSI controller. Second fan installed. 24"x7"x17", (4) 5.25" bays, (2) 3.5" bays. Also have various ISA multi-io cards, IDE, serial, parallel, game. Approximatley 150 ft. of RG-58 bulk cable. -rob From jxh at jxh.com Thu Mar 6 18:02:53 2003 From: jxh at jxh.com (Jim Hickstein) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:02:53 -0800 Subject: Old PC Hardware, for free! In-Reply-To: <3E67F164.8080502@solarflares.net> References: <3E67F164.8080502@solarflares.net> Message-ID: <155080000.1047002573@jxh.mirapoint.com> > people are still selling these drives?? Well, the US Navy was still using Fujitsi M-2351 Eagle SMDs long after they were EOL'd, and for all I know right down to the present day. They had a warehouse full of them somewhere. You'd be surprised. WeirdStuff Warehouse (www.weirdstuff.com) sometimes posts _bounties_ for certain old things. (Naturally, I threw away my copies of whatever it was before I spotted the $1000 bounty.) I myself could use a Seagate ST-225 in good condition (but not enough to go Googling for one, yet.) Retrocomputing lives! From nouveaux at lightconsulting.com Wed Mar 12 23:23:34 2003 From: nouveaux at lightconsulting.com (Dean Kao) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:23:34 -0800 Subject: Network Design Advice Message-ID: <20030312232334.A83022@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> We're redesigning our network and an interesting issue came up. Currently, our wan links in our network are unnumbered and we want to number them. In our design plans, we want to designate 10.128/9 to the wan network and subnet that further into /21, which allows for 4096 networks. If we number the wan links, it'll only give us 2048 networks (assuming you use a /21 for the wan link). Is there any design tricks that I can use so I dont have to use up a whole /21 for just the two ips between the routers? Or am I stuck losing all those ips. Thanks! Dean From rsr at inorganic.org Thu Mar 13 00:08:17 2003 From: rsr at inorganic.org (Roy S. Rapoport) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:08:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Network Design Advice In-Reply-To: <20030312232334.A83022@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Dean Kao wrote: > We're redesigning our network and an interesting issue > came up. Currently, our wan links in our network are unnumbered > and we want to number them. In our design plans, we want to > designate 10.128/9 to the wan network and subnet that further > into /21, which allows for 4096 networks. If we number > the wan links, it'll only give us 2048 networks (assuming you use > a /21 for the wan link). Is there any design tricks that I can use > so I dont have to use up a whole /21 for just the two ips between > the routers? Or am I stuck losing all those ips. I'll take the honours of being the first to ask a stupid question: Why not just use /30 networks for WAN links? This gives you something on the order of 2^21 networks, if I've got my math right. -roy From herb at urusei.net Thu Mar 13 01:02:56 2003 From: herb at urusei.net (Herb Leong) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 01:02:56 -0800 Subject: Network Design Advice In-Reply-To: <20030312232334.A83022@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> References: <20030312232334.A83022@shaitan.lightconsulting.com> Message-ID: <3E704940.6020107@urusei.net> Dean Kao wrote: > We're redesigning our network and an interesting issue > came up. Currently, our wan links in our network are unnumbered > and we want to number them. In our design plans, we want to > designate 10.128/9 to the wan network and subnet that further > into /21, which allows for 4096 networks. If we number > the wan links, it'll only give us 2048 networks (assuming you use > a /21 for the wan link). Is there any design tricks that I can use > so I dont have to use up a whole /21 for just the two ips between > the routers? Or am I stuck losing all those ips. Break one of your /21's into /30s. That should give you plenty of blocks for interconnects. You are not *ever* going to use this network as a non-rfc1918 network, correct? How are you going to route the networks? /herb From extasia at extasia.org Thu Mar 13 15:04:25 2003 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:04:25 -0800 Subject: [baylisa] SIG-BEER-WEST this Saturday in San Francisco Message-ID: <20030313150425.A15280@gerasimov.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bring your BayLISA pint glasses! SIG-beer-west Saturday, March 15, 2003 at 6:00pm San Francisco, CA Beer. Mental stimulation. This event: * Saturday, 03/15/2003, 6:00pm, at the Toronado, San Francisco Coming events (third Saturdays): * Saturday, 04/19/2003, 6:00pm * Saturday, 05/17/2003, 6:00pm * Saturday, 06/21/2003, 6:00pm * Saturday, 07/19/2003, 6:00pm San Francisco's next social event for computer sysadmins and their friends, sig-beer-west, will take place on Saturday, March 15, 2003 at the [1]Toronado in San Francisco, CA. The Toronado has an impressive selection of [2]draught and [3]bottled beer. Festivities will start at 6:00pm and continue until we've all left. The Toronado has an excellent selection of beer, but no food. It is perfectly okay to score food from neighboring establishments and bring it back to the Toronado to eat. Also, after we are all full with beer we may roam off to a nearby restaurant. [1] http://www.toronado.com/ [2] http://www.toronado.com/draft.htm [3] http://www.toronado.com/bottles.htm Everyone is welcome at this event. We mean it! Please feel free to forward this information and to invite friends, co-workers, and others who might enjoy lifting a glass with interesting folks from all over the place. (O.K., you do have to be of legal drinking age to attend.) For directions to the Toronado, please use the [4]excellent directions at their website. When you show up at the Toronado, you should look for some kind of botched sig-beer-west sign. We will try to make it obvious who we are. :-) [4] http://www.toronado.com/map.htm Note: Check the tables in the back room for us if you don't see us at the tables by the bar. The back room is back and to the left. Can't come this month? Mark your calendar for next month. sig-beer-west is always on the third Saturday of the month. Any Comments, Questions, or Suggestions of Things to Do Later on That Evening ... email [5]Fiid or [6]David. [5] fiid AT fiid DOT net [6] extasia AT extasia DOT org There is now a sig-beer-west mailing list. To subscribe, send an email with "subscribe" in the body to . sig-beer-west FAQ 1. Q: Your announcement says "computer sysadmins and their friends". How do I know if I'm a friend of a computer sysadmin? I don't even know what one is. A: You're a friend of a computer sysadmin if you can find the sig-beer-west sign at this month's sig-beer-west event. 2. Q: I'm not really a beer person. In fact I'm interested in hanging out, but not in drinking. Would I be welcome? A: Absolutely! The point is to hang out with fun, interesting folks. Please do join us. 3. Q: Is parking difficult around the Toronado, like maybe I should factor this into my travel time? A: Yes. ______________________________________________________________________ sig-beer-west was started in February 2002 when a couple Washington, D.C. based systems administrators who moved to the San Francisco Bay area wanted to continue a [7]dc-sage tradition, sig-beer, which is described in dc-sage web space as: SIG-beer, as in "Special Interest Group - Beer" ala ACM, or as in "send the BEER signal to that process". The original SIG-beer gathering takes place in Washington DC, usually on the first Saturday night of the month. [7] http://www.dc-sage.org/ ______________________________________________________________________ Last modified: $Date: 2003/03/13 22:50:32 $ - -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. *** Come to sig-beer-west! http://www.extasia.org/sig-beer-west/ Unix sysadmin available: http://www.extasia.org/resume/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+cQ5lPh0M9c/OpdARAvzmAJ4iDko2oU8Xv4fTLWv+W5Ew+kGVlACgsWg2 04Eo9Ba4UCrlHgAumSwvQmE= =HVjP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ecm at otivo.com Thu Mar 13 15:19:36 2003 From: ecm at otivo.com (Elizabeth McLachlan) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:19:36 -0800 Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> Sun Microsystems is looking for UNIX system administrators who have some experience managing UNIX networks and systems, and who are currently employed in the San Francisco Bay area. Contractors are okay as long as you work on site at your contract company. Individuals who manage UNIX systems along with other platforms (e.g. Windows, Linux, BSD, Apple) are highly desired. Sysadmins who participate in the study will be observed for 5-6 hours in their work environment(s) by a videographer and an ethnographer. You will conduct your job duties and be asked occasional questions. Each participant will receive a $300-$400 honorarium. Your employer/boss/office mates have to be okay with this - we will ask for a signed consent form. If you fit the description, if you are also comfortable in the presence of a video camera and willing to articulate your work practice, your participation would be a great benefit to this study. Please send an email with: 1. your name, 2. phone & email, 3. detail of your experience with Solaris/UNIX (# of years) and brief description of your job responsibilities (types of tasks), 4. size of the computing environment (# of users, # of hosts, # of servers) 5. name of company The sessions will be scheduled at your convenience, but as soon as possible. You could also help by extending this request to someone else you know who may be right for the part. Thank you ecm at otivo.com From slf at dreamscape.org Thu Mar 13 15:28:33 2003 From: slf at dreamscape.org (Steven L. Fountain) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:28:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> Message-ID: Next on Real TV... Sun Professional Services, Live. slf at dreamscape.org [enraptured] . http://dreamscape.org | 925.895.1500 : "The future is veiled from our eyes. The threads of each man's fate : extend well beyond the boundaries of the visible world. Where they : lead, we cannot see. Who can say that today's key will not be : tomorrow's lock, or today's lock not tomorrow's key?" Nizami 12th C. On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Elizabeth McLachlan wrote: EM>Sun Microsystems is looking for UNIX system administrators who have some EM>experience managing UNIX networks and systems, and who are currently EM>employed in the San Francisco Bay area. Contractors are okay as long as you EM>work on site at your contract company. Individuals who manage UNIX systems EM>along with other platforms (e.g. Windows, Linux, BSD, Apple) are highly EM>desired. EM> EM>Sysadmins who participate in the study will be observed for 5-6 hours in EM>their work environment(s) by a videographer and an ethnographer. You will EM>conduct your job duties and be asked occasional questions. Each participant EM>will receive a $300-$400 honorarium. Your employer/boss/office mates have EM>to be okay with this - we will ask for a signed consent form. EM> EM>If you fit the description, if you are also comfortable in the presence of EM>a video camera and willing to articulate your work practice, your EM>participation would be a great benefit to this study. Please send an email EM>with: EM>Thank you EM>ecm at otivo.com From extasia at extasia.org Thu Mar 13 15:38:40 2003 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:38:40 -0800 Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews In-Reply-To: ; from slf@dreamscape.org on Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:28:33PM -0800 References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> Message-ID: <20030313153840.C16284@gerasimov.net> At 2003/03/13/15:28 -0800 Steven L. Fountain wrote: > Next on Real TV... Sun Professional Services, Live. Maybe they can get Ozzy to play the network admin... -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. *** Come to sig-beer-west! http://www.extasia.org/sig-beer-west/ Unix sysadmin available: http://www.extasia.org/resume/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slf at dreamscape.org Thu Mar 13 15:47:40 2003 From: slf at dreamscape.org (Steven L. Fountain) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:47:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews In-Reply-To: <20030313153840.C16284@gerasimov.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> <20030313153840.C16284@gerasimov.net> Message-ID: DA>At 2003/03/13/15:28 -0800 Steven L. Fountain wrote: DA>> Next on Real TV... Sun Professional Services, Live. DA>Maybe they can get Ozzy to play the network admin... If you cant join them, clown them. ;) -slf slf at dreamscape.org [enraptured] . http://dreamscape.org | 925.895.1500 : "The future is veiled from our eyes. The threads of each man's fate : extend well beyond the boundaries of the visible world. Where they : lead, we cannot see. Who can say that today's key will not be : tomorrow's lock, or today's lock not tomorrow's key?" Nizami 12th C. From dannyman at toldme.com Thu Mar 13 15:50:21 2003 From: dannyman at toldme.com (Danny Howard) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:50:21 -0800 Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> Message-ID: <20030313235021.GB11311@pianosa.catch22.org> On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:28:33PM -0800, Steven L. Fountain wrote: > > Next on Real TV... Sun Professional Services, Live. I'm voting you off the Data Center. More work for me. -danny From chuck+baylisa at snew.com Thu Mar 13 16:05:39 2003 From: chuck+baylisa at snew.com (Chuck Yerkes) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:05:39 -0500 Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> Message-ID: <20030314000539.GA17182@snew.com> Quoting Elizabeth McLachlan (ecm at otivo.com): > Sun Microsystems is looking for UNIX system administrators who have some > experience managing UNIX networks and systems, and who are currently > employed in the San Francisco Bay area. Contractors are okay as long as you > work on site at your contract company. Individuals who manage UNIX systems > along with other platforms (e.g. Windows, Linux, BSD, Apple) are highly > desired. > > Sysadmins who participate in the study will be observed for 5-6 hours in > their work environment(s) by a videographer and an ethnographer. You will > conduct your job duties and be asked occasional questions. Each participant > will receive a $300-$400 honorarium. Your employer/boss/office mates have > to be okay with this - we will ask for a signed consent form. Having studied lots and lots and lots of documentary in college (computers were a backup plan when i was tired and rich from documentarizing...) does anyone ELSE flash to Flaherty and "Nanook of the North" when they see this? "The admin extending his senses with snmp, big brother and a pager, is able to feel problems in his network from thousands of miles away." or "Watch as he sets a honeypot out and waits for {cr,h}ackers. If he catches one tonight, his family will eat for 2 weeks, wasting no part." I just have to offer that, for the most part, this is going to be the dullest documentary every, if it's just film of us working. I've suffered the torment of going to client sites to install and tune and configure software to be told: This is So&So. We don't want training, so he'll learn by observing you while you work. (with a bonus of: He speaks little english and has never really looked at an rc file). I've thought loudly: "Gee, I hope doctors don't learn medicine by watching their seniors give exams and go mmm-hmmm, ahhhhh, oh! Now breath... breath.... again...." There's a reason keyboards beep and unseen GUIs are used to represent computer work in films. It's freaking boring. Now, high speed IRC logs might be fun. From rsr at inorganic.org Thu Mar 13 16:04:15 2003 From: rsr at inorganic.org (Roy S. Rapoport) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:04:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews (fwd) Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, David Alban wrote: > > Next on Real TV... Sun Professional Services, Live. > Maybe they can get Ozzy to play the network admin... God-**** ************* piece of **** Ultra won't ****** boot off the new piece of **** kernel now that the ******* application vendor went and ****** it up with their god-***** ****ty modules! -roy From nicole at unixgirl.com Thu Mar 13 16:22:03 2003 From: nicole at unixgirl.com (Nicole) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:22:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030313151654.02c9c6f0@otivo.com> Message-ID: And now the most boring TV show ever.. Well next to the Anna Nicole Smith show. Hour One: Sysadmin sits down and gets comfortable. Makes faces at screen - much clicking. Sysadmin is now typing away... "what are you doing Sysadmin?" Im Blah blah blah blah blah.. Hour Two Sysadmin is still staring at screen and typing away... "what are you doing Sysadmin?" I'm Blah blah blah blah blah.. Hour Three Sysadmin is still staring at screen and typing away... "what are you doing Sysadmin?" I'm Blah blah blah blah blah.. Interupted by manager and 10 minutes of personal expression over knowlege of said manager. Hour........... Of course unless your, I have nothing to hide no secrets (who a sysadmin) company and you also film my computer screen Nicole On 13-Mar-03 I Tawt I Taw A Putty Tat Named Elizabeth McLachlan say: > Sun Microsystems is looking for UNIX system administrators who have some > experience managing UNIX networks and systems, and who are currently > employed in the San Francisco Bay area. Contractors are okay as long as you > work on site at your contract company. Individuals who manage UNIX systems > along with other platforms (e.g. Windows, Linux, BSD, Apple) are highly > desired. > > Sysadmins who participate in the study will be observed for 5-6 hours in > their work environment(s) by a videographer and an ethnographer. You will > conduct your job duties and be asked occasional questions. Each participant > will receive a $300-$400 honorarium. Your employer/boss/office mates have > to be okay with this - we will ask for a signed consent form. > > If you fit the description, if you are also comfortable in the presence of > a video camera and willing to articulate your work practice, your > participation would be a great benefit to this study. Please send an email > with: > 1. your name, > 2. phone & email, > 3. detail of your experience with Solaris/UNIX (# of years) and brief > description of your job responsibilities (types of tasks), > 4. size of the computing environment (# of users, # of hosts, # of servers) > 5. name of company > > The sessions will be scheduled at your convenience, but as soon as possible. > > You could also help by extending this request to someone else you know who > may be right for the part. > > Thank you > ecm at otivo.com ******* |\ __ /| (`\ ******* * * | o_o |__ ) ) * * * * // \\ * * * Nicole Harrington | AKA Hodge Podge * ----------------------(((---(((-------------------------------- HomePage http://www.unixgirl.com/ DangerMouse Site  http://www.dangermouse.org/ Photography Site http://www.deviantimages.com/ Music Stuff http://www.mp3.com/signals -- We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams. --Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. ** Blessed Be! ** ** Powered by FreeBSD ** ---------------------------------------------------------------- From david at weekly.org Thu Mar 13 17:55:51 2003 From: david at weekly.org (David E. Weekly) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:55:51 -0800 Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews References: Message-ID: <003301c2e9cc$d739e110$110b0a0a@pc.there.com> [laugh] Or, it's $300 to get most of the infrastructure passwords at a major company. Not a bad piece of social engineering! I should try that one some time! :) -david weekly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole" To: "Elizabeth McLachlan" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: RE: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews > > > And now the most boring TV show ever.. Well next to the Anna Nicole Smith > show. > > Hour One: > Sysadmin sits down and gets comfortable. Makes faces at screen - much clicking. > Sysadmin is now typing away... "what are you doing Sysadmin?" Im Blah blah > blah blah blah.. > > Hour Two > Sysadmin is still staring at screen and typing away... > "what are you doing Sysadmin?" I'm Blah blah blah blah blah.. > > Hour Three > Sysadmin is still staring at screen and typing away... > "what are you doing Sysadmin?" I'm Blah blah blah blah blah.. > Interupted by manager and 10 minutes of personal expression over knowlege of > said manager. > > Hour........... > > Of course unless your, I have nothing to hide no secrets (who a sysadmin) > company and you also film my computer screen > > > > > Nicole > > > > > > > > On 13-Mar-03 I Tawt I Taw A Putty Tat Named Elizabeth McLachlan say: > > Sun Microsystems is looking for UNIX system administrators who have some > > experience managing UNIX networks and systems, and who are currently > > employed in the San Francisco Bay area. Contractors are okay as long as you > > work on site at your contract company. Individuals who manage UNIX systems > > along with other platforms (e.g. Windows, Linux, BSD, Apple) are highly > > desired. > > > > Sysadmins who participate in the study will be observed for 5-6 hours in > > their work environment(s) by a videographer and an ethnographer. You will > > conduct your job duties and be asked occasional questions. Each participant > > will receive a $300-$400 honorarium. Your employer/boss/office mates have > > to be okay with this - we will ask for a signed consent form. > > > > If you fit the description, if you are also comfortable in the presence of > > a video camera and willing to articulate your work practice, your > > participation would be a great benefit to this study. Please send an email > > with: > > 1. your name, > > 2. phone & email, > > 3. detail of your experience with Solaris/UNIX (# of years) and brief > > description of your job responsibilities (types of tasks), > > 4. size of the computing environment (# of users, # of hosts, # of servers) > > 5. name of company > > > > The sessions will be scheduled at your convenience, but as soon as possible. > > > > You could also help by extending this request to someone else you know who > > may be right for the part. > > > > Thank you > > ecm at otivo.com > > > ******* |\ __ /| (`\ ******* > * * | o_o |__ ) ) * * > * * // \\ * * > * Nicole Harrington | AKA Hodge Podge * > ----------------------(((---(((-------------------------------- > HomePage http://www.unixgirl.com/ > DangerMouse Site  http://www.dangermouse.org/ > Photography Site http://www.deviantimages.com/ > Music Stuff http://www.mp3.com/signals > -- > We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > --Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. > > ** Blessed Be! ** > ** Powered by FreeBSD ** > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From jeff at drinktomi.com Fri Mar 14 21:55:31 2003 From: jeff at drinktomi.com (Jeff with The Big Yellow Suit) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:55:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [baylisa] SIG-BEER-WEST this Saturday in San Francisco In-Reply-To: <20030313150425.A15280@gerasimov.net> References: <20030313150425.A15280@gerasimov.net> Message-ID: <1598.216.36.68.212.1047707731.squirrel@mail.gigo.com> David Alban said: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Bring your BayLISA pint glasses! > > SIG-beer-west > Saturday, March 15, 2003 at 6:00pm > San Francisco, CA > > Beer. Mental stimulation. > > This event: > * Saturday, 03/15/2003, 6:00pm, at the Toronado, San Francisco God damn it. I can't make it again! The Urban Iditarod is on Saturday. ( http://www.urbaniditarod.com/index.shtml http://www.urbaniditarod.com/course.shtml ) > * Saturday, 04/19/2003, 6:00pm And I'm Toronto for a passover seder. Arg! Will this confliction of weekend schedules never end? -jeff From jeff at drinktomi.com Fri Mar 14 21:46:23 2003 From: jeff at drinktomi.com (Jeff with The Big Yellow Suit) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:46:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Seeking Unix Admins for Paid Interviews (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1451.216.36.68.212.1047707183.squirrel@mail.gigo.com> Roy S. Rapoport said: > God-**** ************* piece of **** Ultra won't ****** boot off the new > piece of **** kernel now that the ******* application vendor went and > ****** it up with their god-***** ****ty modules! Why do they need Ozzy for that dialog? Seems that the usual when in the computer room (aka "The Cone of Silence"). -jeff From star at starshine.org Mon Mar 17 09:07:13 2003 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:07:13 -0800 Subject: Meet Thurs 3/20 7:30pm (correct this time) Message-ID: <20030317170713.GA20690@starshine.org> Sorry, that ATJOB was not nearly as bright as I thought. Here's the real bits, and my deepest apology for putting gunk in your mailbox. Subject: BayLISA this Thurs (3/20) 7:30 pm Open up that planner, get it into your PDA, or at least make sure that if you want to go you're not triple booked against going to this month's meeting... BayLISA meets this week! ...the third Thursday of the month, so if you're reading this on Thursday that'd be tonight :D For the calendar challenged that's March 20th. SPECIAL THIS MONTH - Two memberships for the price of one... if you are a *completely* new member who's never joined BayLISA before, the one who invited you to join gets their year renewed free! While it's still a little ahead you can use the website to prepare your data, and just bring your checkbook and printout to the meeting to complete your membership. Topic - Sendmail Samplers Speaker - Robert Harker When - 7:30 pm until oh, 9:30 or so ... expect to get out around 10. Where - Apple's "De Anza Building Three" 10500 North De Anza Blvd Cupertino De Anza is a large major thoroughfare. The nearest ordinary cross streets are De Anza and Mariani (also known as the entrance to Apple Campus) - the nearest major cross street would be Stevens Creek Blvd. From 280/De Anza exit -- turn southward, the next light is Mariani. If you pass Stevens Creek you definitely went too far. From 85 -- well, you *could* exit De Anza and drive a distance north - past Stevens Creek by a couple of blocks - but it's much more efficient to use the 85/280 juncture. Assuming you exit 280 at De Anza, then... 1. turn LEFT at Mariani (into the rightmost lane) 2. immediately turn RIGHT into the blue-apple parking lot 3. Go around the building to its right and park on its southern side so you are near the auditorium we're in. A bunch of us like to go out afterwards for foodstuff. There are a number of local possibilities we've investigated. Discussion on the BLW list. -* Heather Stern * Arch (secretary) BayLISA Board * http://www.baylisa.org/ *- From nthomas at cise.ufl.edu Tue Mar 18 19:45:19 2003 From: nthomas at cise.ufl.edu (N. Thomas) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:45:19 -0500 Subject: app requires C: less than 1.9GB? Message-ID: <20030319034519.GC21604@cise.ufl.edu> Someone just asked us puzzling question. They have a medical application that runs on Windows (don't know which version), and requires that the size of the C: drive it is installed on to be less than 1.9GB. We've never heard of a size constraint like this and are puzzled as to why a maximum size was specified (as opposed to "you must have N bytes free"). The nearest that we can come up with is this: 1.9GB is just shy of 2^31 bits, so they must have something hardcoded into their application that can't address outside this range. Anybody got a better explanation? My friends and I were just curious about this, that's all. thanks, thomas -- N. Thomas nthomas at cise.ufl.edu Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From claw at kanga.nu Tue Mar 18 20:14:49 2003 From: claw at kanga.nu (J C Lawrence) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:14:49 -0800 Subject: app requires C: less than 1.9GB? In-Reply-To: Message from "N. Thomas" of "Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:45:19 EST." <20030319034519.GC21604@cise.ufl.edu> References: <20030319034519.GC21604@cise.ufl.edu> Message-ID: <27375.1048047289@kanga.nu> On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:45:19 -0500 N Thomas wrote: > Someone just asked us puzzling question. They have a medical > application that runs on Windows (don't know which version), and > requires that the size of the C: drive it is installed on to be less > than 1.9GB. Some licensing approaches attempt to write to the raw drive. Usually this is done either by finding a bad sector on the drive within the first N, or by falsely marking a good sector bad within the same space. If, somewhere in there they are being incredibly stupid and are opening the drive as a raw device and etc...to do the same stupid trick, a <2Gig limit would make sense. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw at kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. From jhoney at flash.net Wed Mar 19 01:07:29 2003 From: jhoney at flash.net (jhoney at flash.net) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 03:07:29 -0600 Subject: app requires C: less than 1.9GB? References: <20030319034519.GC21604@cise.ufl.edu> Message-ID: <3E783351.8050905@flash.net> N. Thomas wrote: >Someone just asked us puzzling question. They have a medical application >that runs on Windows (don't know which version), and requires that the >size of the C: drive it is installed on to be less than 1.9GB. > >We've never heard of a size constraint like this and are puzzled as to >why a maximum size was specified (as opposed to "you must have N bytes >free"). The nearest that we can come up with is this: 1.9GB is just shy >of 2^31 bits, so they must have something hardcoded into their >application that can't address outside this range. > >Anybody got a better explanation? My friends and I were just curious >about this, that's all. > >thanks, >thomas > > > Having been a Product Manager for an industrial PC mfgr, I can tell you that there are lots of embedded applications that only need a 300 MBy HDD for the entire OS and application.. When a big OEM goes into production for a machine that they will be shipping lots of boxes of, they might buy several thousand drives. The life cycle of a HDD is typically no more than 6 mos and most mfgrs won't bother you with an EOL notice unless you have a huge run rate. (LCD screens are about the worst - you place your order before it goes into production and by the time you get the new product you can no longer order any more of those units and you are already getting eval units and looking at its replacement. Life's a real bitch if you didn't guage your production accurately.) A 'tried-and-true' model can be very important. There can be unforseen, ugly surprises by changing model numebrs. We got burned once by a drive HP (I think it was HP - before they got out of the drive business) made that the head would somehow 'weld' itself to the media after use and shutdown. This would prevent it from spinning up and if it did spin up it was toast anyway. For whatever reason it took IBM a while to 'remedy that situation. I had several customers who had married to that drive and were all over my pink butt about it. Anyway, big OEMs often don't give a rat's ass that a drive 10X the size for half the price is available. They want to ship the same drive for ever and ever amen. If they have gotten any 'approvals' then changing an element like a drive can mean a whole new round of testing/certification and that can be an easy $10,000+. FDA is one of the absolute worst to have to go through approval ffor. NEBS is another bad one. If you are going with full NEBS you pipe propane into the unit and burn it up to see what happens. They also want to be assured that they know EXACTLY what the technician will find under the lid when he looks inside. If he/she travels half way around the globe and is sent with a drive that for some odd, unforseen reason won't work in the box, a customer can get real pissed. Some OEMs need very tight control of what components they use and spare. So I don't know what this customer's situation is but they might have a couple thousand small drives sitting around they need to consume. Maybe there is a flash device involved you need to stay within. Maybe they run everything out of a RAM disk to try and control response times. There are all kinds of reasons for it. It would be interesting to hear what the reasons are. They probably have real good reasons for it but it doesn't hurt to drill into it a bit. Sometimes the customer is unconsciously married to certain concepts/technologies and you might bring some different approaches to the table. good luck From ulf at Alameda.net Wed Mar 19 08:23:51 2003 From: ulf at Alameda.net (Ulf Zimmermann) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:23:51 -0800 Subject: app requires C: less than 1.9GB? In-Reply-To: <20030319034519.GC21604@cise.ufl.edu>; from nthomas@cise.ufl.edu on Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 10:45:19PM -0500 References: <20030319034519.GC21604@cise.ufl.edu> Message-ID: <20030319082351.R11496@seven.alameda.net> On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 10:45:19PM -0500, N. Thomas wrote: > Someone just asked us puzzling question. They have a medical application > that runs on Windows (don't know which version), and requires that the > size of the C: drive it is installed on to be less than 1.9GB. > > We've never heard of a size constraint like this and are puzzled as to > why a maximum size was specified (as opposed to "you must have N bytes > free"). The nearest that we can come up with is this: 1.9GB is just shy > of 2^31 bits, so they must have something hardcoded into their > application that can't address outside this range. > > Anybody got a better explanation? My friends and I were just curious > about this, that's all. > > thanks, > thomas > > -- > N. Thomas > nthomas at cise.ufl.edu > Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo That program is probably really old and uses the old windows/system calls which can't handle more then 2GB for a filesystem. Remember the times you had a partition larger then 2GB and tried to install a program and the installer wouldn't let you because it thought there was negative free space on the partition ? -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 You can find my resume at: http://seven.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html From chuck+baylisa at snew.com Wed Mar 19 08:57:20 2003 From: chuck+baylisa at snew.com (Chuck Yerkes) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:57:20 -0500 Subject: Vendor Kwality and response (Re: app requires C: less than 1.9GB?) In-Reply-To: <3E783351.8050905@flash.net> References: <20030319034519.GC21604@cise.ufl.edu> <3E783351.8050905@flash.net> Message-ID: <20030319165720.GA13831@snew.com> Quoting jhoney at flash.net (jhoney at flash.net): ... > Anyway, big OEMs often don't give a rat's ass that a drive 10X the size > for half the price is available. They want to ship the same drive for > ever and ever amen. ... > They also want to be assured that they know EXACTLY what the technician > will find under the lid when he looks inside. If he/she travels half > way around the globe and is sent with a drive that for some odd, > unforseen reason won't work in the box, a customer can get real pissed. > Some OEMs need very tight control of what components they use and spare. I own a Toyota. But I don't buy my tires from them. Or gas. I get my tires from a place that happens to be locally owned and specializes in tires. Along that model, you describe reason #46 why I use RAID and non-monster disk vendors who are responsive to *my* needs rather than their suppliers' and who can provide quality product, often for less price and higher performance. No, when the sales folks say "we have over 100,000 customers and have 2 billion is sales/quarter" I translate that to "You will have virtually no importance to us after we sell it to you." From gwen at reptiles.org Wed Mar 19 09:31:06 2003 From: gwen at reptiles.org (Gwendolynn ferch Elydyr) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:31:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Vendor Kwality and response (Re: app requires C: less than 1.9GB?) In-Reply-To: <20030319165720.GA13831@snew.com> Message-ID: <20030319122807.I8929-100000@iguana.reptiles.org> On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Chuck Yerkes wrote: > No, when the sales folks say "we have over 100,000 customers and > have 2 billion is sales/quarter" I translate that to "You will > have virtually no importance to us after we sell it to you." This reminds me of a discussion with an unnamed firewall vendor a few years back. They'd asked me what platform I planned on running their software on (Solaris or NT). I'd said "Solaris, of course". Their response was "Oh good - we don't recommend running under NT, it's not very stable, and has performance problems". When we got to the next phase of the discussion, I asked them why I should pick their product. Their response "We have the biggest market share in the firewall industry". My immediate question "Doesn't Microsoft have a dominant share of the OS market, and didn't you just tell me to run screaming?" A long silence ensued. We bought something else, in the end. cheers! ========================================================================== "A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now." From nthomas at cise.ufl.edu Wed Mar 19 10:47:09 2003 From: nthomas at cise.ufl.edu (N. Thomas) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:47:09 -0500 Subject: app requires C: less than 1.9GB? In-Reply-To: <20030319082351.R11496@seven.alameda.net> References: <20030319034519.GC21604@cise.ufl.edu> <20030319082351.R11496@seven.alameda.net> Message-ID: <20030319184709.GD18360@cise.ufl.edu> * Ulf Zimmermann [2003-03-19 08:23:51 -0800]: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 10:45:19PM -0500, N. Thomas wrote: > > They have a medical application that runs on Windows (don't know > > which version), and requires that the size of the C: drive it is > > installed on to be less than 1.9GB. > > > > That program is probably really old and uses the old windows/system > calls which can't handle more then 2GB for a filesystem. Though I've not used Windows in many years, and haven't ever developed for it, this sounds reasonable. You and J C Lawrence had the most plausible explanations for the 1.9GB limit: Either the app was really old and couldn't be run on newer machines or the authors were paranoid about their IP and wrote copy-protection type code that couldn't handle larger drives/partitions. I hope it was the former. thomas -- N. Thomas nthomas at cise.ufl.edu Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From tony at usenix.org Fri Mar 21 13:11:10 2003 From: tony at usenix.org (Tony Del Porto) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:11:10 -0800 Subject: DSL router - local source? Message-ID: I'm in a pickle and need to purchase an Actiontec 1520 or Cisco 678/675 ADSL router before Tuesday. Anyone know a local source for such a beast? Thanks! Tony Del Porto Jr. SysAdmin USENIX Association www.usenix.org www.sage.org From afactor at venus.he.net Fri Mar 21 15:05:18 2003 From: afactor at venus.he.net (afactor) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:05:18 -0800 Subject: HDDs for Netfinity 5500 Message-ID: <200303212305.PAA19054@venus.he.net> Does anybody know a good place to get discontinued hard drives. Specifically I need to get some hard drives for an IBM Netfinity 550 midrange server. IBM has discontinued virtually all the parts for this old workhorse and they pointed me to their affiliate called Boulder Parts. Boulder parts gave me the following prices (and told me they are about out of these parts): 4Gb - $450 9Gb - $600 18Gb - $1000 Can anyone suggest an alternative? Thanks, Alan afactor at afactor.com From alvin at maggie.linux-consulting.com Fri Mar 21 15:33:43 2003 From: alvin at maggie.linux-consulting.com (Alvin Oga) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:33:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: HDDs for Netfinity 5500 In-Reply-To: <200303212305.PAA19054@venus.he.net> Message-ID: hi ya take off the housing ... what is inside ?? usually the plastic around the (maxtor/seagate/wd) disk drive is what the extra $$$$ is for ... and people complain about sun's disks being too expensive... :-) c ya alvin i think a 10GB disk at SurplusComputer.com ( off 101 between scott/lafayette ) is like $20 and there's always disk drive depot... -- if the drive is dead... you may as well perform surgury and see what the "real drive" is On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, afactor wrote: > Does anybody know a good place to get discontinued hard drives. > Specifically I need to get some hard drives for an IBM Netfinity 550 midrange server. > IBM has discontinued virtually all the parts for this old workhorse and they pointed me to their affiliate called Boulder Parts. > Boulder parts gave me the following prices (and told me they are about out of these parts): > 4Gb - $450 > 9Gb - $600 > 18Gb - $1000 > > Can anyone suggest an alternative? > > Thanks, > Alan > afactor at afactor.com > > From fscked at pacbell.net Fri Mar 21 15:35:52 2003 From: fscked at pacbell.net (richard childers / kg6hac) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:35:52 -0800 Subject: HDDs for Netfinity 5500 References: <200303212305.PAA19054@venus.he.net> Message-ID: <3E7BA1D8.8623465E@pacbell.net> IDE or SCSI? -- richard afactor wrote: > Does anybody know a good place to get discontinued hard drives. > Specifically I need to get some hard drives for an IBM Netfinity 550 midrange server. > IBM has discontinued virtually all the parts for this old workhorse and they pointed me to their affiliate called Boulder Parts. > Boulder parts gave me the following prices (and told me they are about out of these parts): > 4Gb - $450 > 9Gb - $600 > 18Gb - $1000 > > Can anyone suggest an alternative? > > Thanks, > Alan > afactor at afactor.com From jhoney at flash.net Fri Mar 21 16:43:05 2003 From: jhoney at flash.net (jhoney at flash.net) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:43:05 -0600 Subject: HDDs for Netfinity 5500 References: <200303212305.PAA19054@venus.he.net> Message-ID: <3E7BB199.60600@flash.net> afactor wrote: >Does anybody know a good place to get discontinued hard drives. >Specifically I need to get some hard drives for an IBM Netfinity 550 midrange server. >IBM has discontinued virtually all the parts for this old workhorse and they pointed me to their affiliate called Boulder Parts. >Boulder parts gave me the following prices (and told me they are about out of these parts): >4Gb - $450 >9Gb - $600 >18Gb - $1000 > >Can anyone suggest an alternative? > >Thanks, >Alan >afactor at afactor.com > > > There's a big outfit outside of Houston that specializes in discontinued and closeout drives. I'll try to remember their name over the weekend - maybe a beer or two will loosen the name... I'll probably figure it out by Sunday and post it. From jhoney at flash.net Sun Mar 23 20:20:33 2003 From: jhoney at flash.net (jhoney at flash.net) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 22:20:33 -0600 Subject: HDDs for Netfinity 5500 References: <200303212305.PAA19054@venus.he.net> Message-ID: <3E7E8791.4070002@flash.net> afactor wrote: >Does anybody know a good place to get discontinued hard drives. >Specifically I need to get some hard drives for an IBM Netfinity 550 midrange server. >IBM has discontinued virtually all the parts for this old workhorse and they pointed me to their affiliate called Boulder Parts. >Boulder parts gave me the following prices (and told me they are about out of these parts): >4Gb - $450 >9Gb - $600 >18Gb - $1000 > >Can anyone suggest an alternative? > >Thanks, >Alan >afactor at afactor.com > > > > > Here's the place I was trying to remember: > MegaHaus > Sales: 800.786.1157 > www.megahaus.com I don't know what their business model is nowadays but they used to deal with a lot of closeouts and such. It also used to be that you should call even if you didn't see it on their website. good luck From extasia at extasia.org Mon Mar 24 09:51:15 2003 From: extasia at extasia.org (David Alban) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:51:15 -0800 Subject: [baylisa] I'm having problems waking up! Message-ID: <20030324095115.B9593@gerasimov.net> Greetings! I'm having problems with sleeping/waking my thinkpad t20 ever since I clean installed red hat 7.3. I experience one of two different problems, each of which puts the machine in a state where powering down using the power button (and subsequently booting) is the only way to regain control of the machine. The blackout problem: Sometimes when I open the lid after using Fn + F4 to suspend, the screen lights, but is all black. The system is then unresponsive. The load creep problem: Sometimes when I open the lid, the system resumes operation, but within one or two minutes, the load gets so high that the system is unresponsive. I've tried opening a terminal window with top(1) before sleeping. When this load problem occurs, top doesn't show anything unusual (except the increasing load), even right up to the moment where the machine hangs hard. One time, when the load was still around 1.0 and I noticed it was going up irregularly, I quickly entered "init 6" at a root prompt. The system load continued to rise, I didn't get the prompt back, it didn't reboot (or go down), and within seconds the system was unresponsive to anything. Again, these problems started happening shortly after my red hat 7.3 install. The "blackout" problem may have happened once or twice previously, when I ran suse, but only once or twice over a year or so.[1] Now, when I sleep the unit, 7 times out of 10 it goes foobar upon waking. The load creep problem is new. (The battery has been almost to full capacity when this has happened, so it's not a low battery issue.) I always sync the disks just before sleeping, and I haven't yet lost any data or gotten any filesystem corruption, but it is *sooooooo* annoying. Any ideas? Thanks! David [1] I don't really know if the blackout problem happened with suse. I just can't remember. It might not have. I don't know... -- Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors. *** Come to sig-beer-west! http://www.extasia.org/sig-beer-west/ Unix sysadmin available: http://www.extasia.org/resume/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available URL: From star at starshine.org Wed Mar 26 09:41:06 2003 From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:41:06 -0800 Subject: [baylisa] I'm having problems waking up! In-Reply-To: <20030324095115.B9593@gerasimov.net> References: <20030324095115.B9593@gerasimov.net> Message-ID: <20030326174106.GB11682@starshine.org> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:51:15AM -0800, David Alban wrote: > Greetings! > > I'm having problems with sleeping/waking my thinkpad t20 ever since I > clean installed red hat 7.3. I experience one of two different > problems, each of which puts the machine in a state where powering > down using the power button (and subsequently booting) is the only > way to regain control of the machine. > > The blackout problem: Sometimes when I open the lid after using Fn + > F4 to suspend, the screen lights, but is all black. The system is > then unresponsive. > > The load creep problem: Sometimes when I open the lid, the system > resumes operation, but within one or two minutes, the load gets so > high that the system is unresponsive. I've tried opening a terminal > window with top(1) before sleeping. When this load problem occurs, > top doesn't show anything unusual (except the increasing load), even > right up to the moment where the machine hangs hard. One time, when > the load was still around 1.0 and I noticed it was going up > irregularly, I quickly entered "init 6" at a root prompt. The system > load continued to rise, I didn't get the prompt back, it didn't > reboot (or go down), and within seconds the system was unresponsive > to anything. > > Again, these problems started happening shortly after my red hat 7.3 > install. The "blackout" problem may have happened once or twice > previously, when I ran suse, but only once or twice over a year or > so.[1] Now, when I sleep the unit, 7 times out of 10 it goes foobar > upon waking. The load creep problem is new. > > (The battery has been almost to full capacity when this has happened, > so it's not a low battery issue.) > > I always sync the disks just before sleeping, and I haven't yet lost > any data or gotten any filesystem corruption, but it is *sooooooo* > annoying. > > Any ideas? The debian laptop folk are increasingly using kernels they build personally with acpi+swsuspend patches. Perhaps you could try stealing a kernel package from a newer redhat yet and see if they fixed something. ACPI support has been getting better. TH9 just came out as "available early" - on shelves soon... any reason in your context not to roll further forward again? I assume you have backups and go to the old setup? maybe you could steal back *its* kernel. You know that worked. Moral: kernels don't care what distro you use, they may care a teeny bit what modutils you're wired up for (and that may care about glibc, silly beast). . | . Heather Stern | star at starshine.org --->*<--- Starshine Technical Services - * - consulting at starshine.org ' | ` Sysadmin Support and Training | (800) 938-4078 From derek at radiancenetworks.com Wed Mar 26 17:24:24 2003 From: derek at radiancenetworks.com (Derek Wong) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:24:24 -0800 Subject: Enterprise file management software Message-ID: Greetings, I've been assigned to look for beta sites for a cool enterprise file management product called File IQ described below. File IQ automates tasks like migration and replication of file system volumes and provides end-users with a way to access network storage files through a unified virtual directory view for ease-of-use. We are looking for beta sites with Microsoft Windows environments having 100+ users and at least a few servers acting as file servers. File IQ really improves the end-user experience and reduces/eliminates many manual tasks in storage management. If you might be interested or know someone else that this would help, please contact me at 408-927-7940 or derek at radiancenetworks.com. If you email me, please include a phone number so we can discuss. Thank you. Warm regards, Derek Wong Radiance Networks 408-927-7940 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- About File IQ ------------------ IT Departments are facing high costs and less-than-optimal quality for file services because currently available management tools are not specifically designed for managing heterogeneous networks of file/NAS servers. Based on Radiance Networks' market study, 70%+ of the management cost is associated with tasks occurring above the level of an individual file/NAS server. Therefore, individual server management systems, no matter how efficient and well-designed, cannot reduce the bulk of the cost. Such tasks include file system migration and expansion, working around server failures, resource monitoring, and user administration. Trying to perform these functions without a good enterprise file management system is costly, ineffective, inefficient and unreliable. Existing SAN management tools manage block data but do not perform enterprise file management. To properly address this enterprise file management problem, Radiance Networks has developed File IQ with a very powerful feature set to effectively manage file resources on large and mid-sized networks. For example, migrating a file system conventionally takes several hours or days of IT time to accomplish. Using File IQ, a migration can be set-up in two minutes and then executed automatically by the File IQ appliance software. File IQ is also very end-user focused rather than being purely an IT manager tool. Consolidated virtual directory views of file resources make it much easier for users to find and share files. Using File IQ, data migration or file/NAS server failure that conventionally disrupts end-users can be virtually eliminated through File IQ's data replication and automatic rerouting of traffic. File IQ is currently available for Windows environments. A UNIX/Linux version will follow.